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Why is the band's so-called polarising effect listed ahead of its success? Billsmith60 (talk) 19:53, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to be honest with you, it was just what came over me at the time. GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 20:03, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'll check the version that was approved for GA and reply if I need to.
As to the punctuation, it's correct now for British English – see my edit summary. If you want to differentiate between the musicians and the manager, write "Berryman and drummer Phil Champion as well as manager Phil Harvey." Billsmith60 (talk) 08:39, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've moved down the polarising bit to where it should sit and reworded it to reflect the source. Also, the article has grown very large indeed and is more than a bit unwieldy now but infomative Billsmith60 (talk) 09:43, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see how writing that Coldplay are polarising violates the neutral point of view policy. There are multiple sources for that and they received a substantial amount of criticism regarding both their music and image. GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 17:44, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's not about the neutrality, it's about giving unnecessary prominence to the information by placing it in the 2nd sentence of the article. I haven't learned anything yet about their career, their releases, or their musical style before I'm being told they are polarizing? It seems quite abrupt and out of place. I can't find anything comparable in any other music bio article. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk • contributions) 17:58, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Here are some examples for you:
Lady Gaga: Her image reinventions and versatility are mentioned prior to her releases and style.
Taylor Swift: Her fandom and media scrutiny is mentioned prior to her releases and style.
Madonna: Her title as the "Queen of Pop" is mentioned prior to anything else.
Kanye West: His controversial nature is mentioned prior to anything else.
The first paragraph should cover the essential of the essential before the rest of lead goes on. In Coldplay's case, the key aspects are live shows, impact on popular culture and the fact they are polarising. GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 18:22, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To further add into my point, here are some reliable sources from different decades pointing out this aspect of the group:
"Few bands are as polarizing as Coldplay" – Entertainment Weekly (2008)[1]
"Coldplay are a polarizing band who provoke violent reactions" – American Songwriter (2008)[2]
"For such a middle-of-the-road rock band, Coldplay sure is polarizing" – Los Angeles Times (2011)[3]
"Coldplay retains an integrity, albeit polarizing, that few mainstream rock 'n' roll acts ever get to clutch for over a decade" – Consequence (2014)[4]
"The album felt vital and current and exploratory but also very much like Coldplay, polarizing quirks and all" – Stereogum (2021)[5]
About the article's length: I plan to rework the History and Musical Style sections in the future. Other than that, I think it is pretty concise once you remember that the band have been active for 27 years now. GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 17:50, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
level-5 vital article is rated GA-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
