Talk:Columbia Eneutseak

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 06:13, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Columbia Eneutseak and whip
Columbia Eneutseak and whip

Created by Penny Richards (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 10:17, 4 August 2021 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article is new enough, long enough, and within policy. The hook fact has an inline citation to a verified reference. I wiki-linked the exposition in the hook. This article can be promoted.4meter4 (talk) 22:43, 5 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
To T:DYK/P2


Birth and name[edit]

The article and subject are interesting so thanks to the author(s). But I had some nitpicks when it appeared at DYK this morning. It has scrolled off quickly so, for the record, here's my post:

Nancy Columbia[edit]

The current hook reads "... that 'Columbia Eneutseak (pictured), named for the World's Columbian Exposition where she was born into one of the exhibits, starred in her film The Way of the Eskimo?"

What first attracted my attention was "she was born into one of the exhibits". This read oddly and it turns out that it is not accurate. This source explains that

Twelve Inuit families, including the pregnant Esther Eneutsiak (then age 15) and her parents, Helene and Abile, arrived in Chicago in October 1892 and were housed on the fairgrounds as the fair buildings were being constructed. During this construction period, three of the Inuit women, including Esther, gave birth on the fairgrounds. ... An ongoing dispute over living conditions resulted in most of the Inuit families including Columbia's quitting the fairground village just before the World's Columbian Exposition opened. With local backing they eventually established their own Eskimo Village outside the fairgrounds.

So, the subject was born in housing during construction but that was not the eventual exhibit.

Then I noticed that most of the sources call the subject "Nancy Columbia" not "Columbia Eneutseak". Look at their titles:

  • Nancy Columbia: The first Inuit screenwriter had ties to Labrador
  • Miss Columbia is declared Queen of the Carnival at the Alaska-Yukon-Pacific Exposition in Seattle on August 19, 1909
  • Early Arctic Films of Nancy Columbia and Esther Eneutseak
  • Nancy Columbia, Queen of the World's Fair Esquimaux
  • Nancy Columbia, an Eskimo Girl
  • Nancy Columbia: Inuit star of stage, screen and camera
  • Nancy Columbia & The Arctic Beyond
  • Columbia Melling, Pioneer State Resident, Dies

The only other name given is "Columbia Melling" – her married name. This source says plainly that "The child was usually known as Nancy Columbia" and so this should be the name used per WP:COMMONNAME.

So to fix these issues, the hook should be reworded. I suggest:

"... that Nancy Columbia (pictured), named for the World's Columbian Exposition where she was born, starred in her film The Way of the Eskimo?"

Andrew🐉(talk) 13:16, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As the editor who started this article, I have no objections to it being renamed. I think Andrew Davidson makes a good case for it. Penny Richards (talk) 15:50, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]