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Wikipedians, please reconsider deletion of this page as this ministry has been pivotal in the ministry of Christianity in the New England region. Headed up by Joe "Papa Joe" Delio who is legendary in this area for his work in the communities, feeding thousands of hungry bikers both food and the word of the Lord. I am only just beginning to research this legendary organization and all the good works they have done and continue to do to this day. Thank you for your consideration. I think if CMA can have a page, Cornerstone deserves one as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Avergobbe (talkcontribs)

I have added some references but have also made a plea to the founder who is inill health to allow me to rummage old historical documents to which he has agreed. This will take some time but I will add information as I attain it. I appreciate this article beng allowed to stay as is until I can present all the facts. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Avergobbe (talkcontribs) 04:19, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I would delete all those links except maybe the last one. Only independent sources are of any help. Also read WP:ELNO for why most of those links are undesirable. Reading WP:ORG would be very helpful too.
I have a PDF copy 2 page article in Christianity Today found via ProQuest:
  • Feeding the Black-Leathered Masses. Nix, Diane. Christianity Today. Carol Stream: Jun 18, 1990. Vol. 34, Iss. 9; p. 13 (2 pages)
The article is about Joseph Delio and how he founded his ministry in 1979. It appears it was called "Cornerstone Outreach Ministry" at that time, and it's possible more sources will turn up if a complete list of the names and variant names of the ministry were known. The only other mention is a announcement of the May 11, 2008 "Blessing of the Bikes", in a local community events calendar, with no actual coverage of the subject:
  • Cathedral of the Pines Events Calendar May 2008. Anonymous. The Brattleboro Reformer. Brattleboro, Vt.: Apr 25, 2008.
Besides ProQuest, I searched Google (Books, News, Scholar, etc) and General OneFile databases, and the Seattle and King County public libraries. I also have a copy of a book about Christian bikers, Dueling Identities: The Christian Biker By Doreen Anderson-Facile [23], and Cornerstone Motorcycle Ministry is not mentioned. I can't say with enthusiasm that with only one or two articles it meets the minimum criteria of WP:ORG, but if more independent coverage (not passing mention), then perhaps support for keeping the article could be found. If not, re-create it at a later date armed with better sources; we have all the time in the world. --Dbratland (talk) 04:32, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Afternoon, I have added 3 additional sources below the reference list. I do not know how you all got the references to be listed as they are above my additions.

Thank you again for not deleting this article,

Adam —Preceding unsigned comment added by Avergobbe (talkcontribs) 17:18, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]