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New Regional structure
[edit]Churchill Plan Restructure of Councils by National Service Territories
Council Name Listing | |||||||||
| NST 1 | NST 2 | NST 3 | NST 4 | NST 5 | NST 6 | NST 7 | NST 8 | ||
| # councils | 14 | 14 | 20 | 15 | 12 | 14 | 16 | 15 | |
| 120 COUNCILS | Great Alaska (C300/G3) | Great Southwest (C400/G2) | Southern Sierra (C500/G3) | Hawkeye Area (C400/G2) | Great Rivers (C400/G1) | Bay Lakes (C200/G2) | Texas Trails (C500/G2) | Golden Spread (C400/G2) | |
| Mountain West (C400/G1) | Greater Wyoming (C500/G2) | Ventura County (C400/G3) | Illowa (C400/G2) | Santa Fe Trail (C500/G1) | Prairielands (C500/G2) | Capitol Area (C200/G2) | Arbuckle Area (C500/G1) | ||
| Crater Lake (C400/G2) | Pikes Peak (C300/G2) | Pacific Skyline (C300/G4) | Mid-Iowa (C300/G2) | Overland Trails (C500/G1) | Pathway to Adventure (C100/G3) | Istrouma Area (C400/G2) | Cherokee Area [OK] (C500/G1) | ||
| Oregon Trail (C400/G2) | Denver Area (C100/G2) | Sequoia (C300/G2) | Northeast Iowa (C500/G1) | Heart of America (C100/G2) | Rainbow (C400/G3) | Three Rivers (C500/G2) | Circle Ten (C100/G3) | ||
| Mount Baker (C400/G3) | Yucca (C500/G2) | Verdugo Hills (C500/G3) | Chippewa Valley (C400/G2) | Cornhusker (C400/G1) | Glacier's Edge (C400/G2) | South Texas (C400/G2) | De Soto Area (C500/G1) | ||
| Midnight Sun (C500/G3) | Montana (C300/G1) | Aloha (C300/G2) | Northern Lights (C300/G1) | Mid-America (C200/G2) | Three Harbors (C300/G2) | Bay Area (C400/G3) | Cimarron (C500/G1) | ||
| Grand Teton (C300/G1) | Longs Peak (C300/G2) | Long Beach Area (C400/G3) | Voyageurs Area (C500/G2) | Coronado Area (C400/G1) | W.D. Boyce (C300/G2) | Rio Grande (C500/G2) | Westark Area (C400/G1) | ||
| Blue Mountain (C500/G3) | Las Vegas Area (C300/G2) | Greater Los Angeles Area (C100/G3) | Gateway Area (C500/G1) | Ozark Trails (C400/G1) | Mississippi Valley (C400/G1) | Sam Houston Area (C100/G3) | Longhorn (C200/G2) | ||
| Far East (C500/G2) | Crossroads of the West (C300/G2) | Greater Yosemite (C400/G3) | Twin Valley (C400/G2) | Pony Express (C400/G1) | Blackhawk Area (C300/G2) | Evangeline Area (C400/G2) | Quapaw Area (C300/G1) | ||
| Cascade Pacific (C200/G2) | Rocky Mountain (C400/G2) | Piedmont [CA] (C500/G4) | Black Hills Area (C500/G1) | Greater St. Louis Area (C100/G2) | Abraham Lincoln (C400/G2) | Calcasieu Area (C500/G2) | South Plains (C500/G2) | ||
| Chief Seattle (C200/G3) | Nevada Area (C400/G2) | California Inland Empire (C300/G3) | Gamehaven (C500/G2) | Jayhawk Area (C400/G1) | Three Fires (C300/G3) | Buffalo Trail (C300/G2) | Last Frontier (C300/G1) | ||
| Inland Northwest (C300/G2) | Conquistador (C500/G1) | Golden Empire (C300/G3) | Central Minnesota (C400/G2) | Quivira (C300/G1) | Northeast Illinois (C300/G3) | Louisiana Purchase (C400/G1) | Caddo Area (C400/G1) | ||
| Pacific Harbors (C300/G3) | Grand Canyon (C200/G2) | San Diego-Imperial (C200/G3) | Sioux (C400/G2) | Potawatomi Area (C400/G2) | Southeast Louisiana (C300/G2) | Indian Nations (C200/G2) | |||
| Grand Columbia (C500/G2) | Catalina (C400/G2) | Silicon Valley Monterey Bay (C200/G4) | Northern Star (C100/G3) | Samoset (C300/G2) | Texas Southwest (C500/G1) | East Texas Area (C400/G2) | |||
| Golden Gate Area (C100/G4) | Winnebago (C500/G1) | Alamo Area (C200/G2) | Northwest Texas (C500/G1) | ||||||
| Marin (C400/G4) | Norwela (C500/G1) | ||||||||
| Orange County (C100/G3) | |||||||||
| Los Padres (C300/G3) | |||||||||
| Redwood Empire (C500/G3) | |||||||||
| Western Los Angeles County (C100/G3) | |||||||||
| NST 9 | NST 10 | NST 11 | NST 12 | NST 13 | NST 14 | NST 15 | NST 16 | ||
| # councils | 17 | 14 | 15 | 15 | 16 | 20 | 20 | 15 | |
| 132 COUNCILS | Great Trail (C300/G2) | Twin Rivers (C300/G2) | Katahdin Area (C400/G1) | Baltimore Area (C200/G2) | Columbia-Montour (C500/G2) | Northeast Georgia (C200/G2) | Central North Carolina (C400/G2) | Alabama-Florida (C500/G2) | |
| Hoosier Trails (C400/G2) | Iroquois Trail (C500/G2) | Transatlantic (C400/G2) | National Capital Area (C100/G3) | Patriots' Path (C200/G3) | Atlanta Area (C100/G2) | Daniel Boone (C300/G1) | Southwest Florida (C400/G2) | ||
| Buckeye (C300/G2) | Badenâ€Powell (C400/G2) | Housatonic (C500/G3) | Moraine Trails (C500/G2) | Washington Crossing (C300/G3) | Greater Alabama (C200/G2) | Georgiaâ€Carolina (C500/G2) | Pine Burr Area (C400/G1) | ||
| Dan Beard (C200/G2) | Greater Niagara Frontier (C300/G3) | Connecticut Rivers (C200/G3) | Buckskin (C400/G1) | Chester County (C300/G2) | Cherokee Area [TN] (C400/G1) | Coastal Carolina (C400/G2) | Andrew Jackson (C400/G1) | ||
| Lake Erie (C200/G2) | Allegheny Highlands (C500/G2) | Greenwich (C400/G4) | Delâ€Marâ€Va (C200/G3) | Pennsylvania Dutch (C300/G2) | Chattahoochee (C400/G2) | Mecklenburg County (C300/G2) | North Florida (C200/G2) | ||
| Simon Kenton (C200/G2) | Five Rivers (C400/G2) | Heart of New England (C400/G3) | Bucktail (C500/G1) | Minsi Trails (C300/G2) | Pushmataha Area (C500/G1) | Indian Waters (C400/G1) | Choctaw Area (C500/G1) | ||
| Miami Valley (C400/G2) | Rip Van Winkle (C500/G2) | Daniel Webster (C200/G2) | French Creek (C500/G2) | New Birth of Freedom (C300/G2) | Flint River (C400/G2) | Pee Dee Area (C500/G2) | South Florida (C300/G3) | ||
| Buffalo Trace (C400/G2) | Theodore Roosevelt (C400/G3) | Mayflower (C300/G3) | Mountaineer Area (C500/G1) | Northeastern PA (C400/G1) | West Tennessee Area (C400/G1) | Piedmont [NC] (C300/G2) | Mobile Area (C500/G2) | ||
| Black Swamp Area (C400/G2) | Suffolk County (C400/G3) | Connecticut Yankee (C300/G3) | Westmorelandâ€Fayette (C400/G2) | Monmouth (C400/G3) | Sequoyah (C400/G1) | Tuscarora (C500/G1) | Central Florida (C200/G2) | ||
| Anthony Wayne Area (C400/G2) | Greater New York (C100/G4) | Pine Tree (C400/G2) | Masonâ€Dixon (C500/G2) | Northern New Jersey (C300/G4) | Great Smoky Mountain (C300/G2) | Old North State (C300/G2) | Gulf Stream (C300/G2) | ||
| Crossroads of America (C100/G2) | Seneca Waterways (C200/G2) | Narragansett (C200/G3) | Laurel Highlands (C200/G2) | Cradle of Liberty (C200/G3) | Blue Grass (C400/G1) | Blue Ridge (C300/G2) | Gulf Coast (C500/G2) | ||
| Sagamore (C400/G2) | Greater Hudson Valley (C200/G4) | Green Mountain (C400/G3) | Chief Cornplanter (C500/G1) | Hawk Mountain (C300/G2) | Lincoln Heritage (C200/G2) | East Carolina (C300/G1) | Puerto Rico (C400/G1) | ||
| Michigan Crossroads (C100/G2) | Longhouse (C400/G2) | Western Massachusetts (C500/G3) | Virginia Headwaters (C400/G2) | Juniata Valley (C500/G2) | Central Georgia (C500/G2) | Colonial Virginia (C400/G2) | Suwannee River Area (C500/G2) | ||
| La Salle (C400/G2) | Leatherstocking (C400/G2) | Spirit of Adventure (C200/G3) | Ohio River Valley (C500/G1) | Jersey Shore (C400/G3) | Chickasaw (C300/G2) | Occoneechee (C200/G2) | Greater Tampa Bay Area (C300/G2) | ||
| Tecumseh (C500/G2) | Cape Cod and Islands (C500/G2) | Shenandoah Area (C500/G2) | Garden State (C300/G3) | Tukabatchee Area (C400/G2) | Heart of Virginia (C300/G2) | South Georgia (C500/G1) | |||
| Erie Shores (C300/G2) | Susquehanna (C500/G2) | Middle Tennessee (C200/G2) | Blue Ridge Mountains (C200/G2) | ||||||
| Muskingum Valley (C500/G2) | Northwest Georgia (C500/G2) | Palmetto (C400/G2) | |||||||
| Coastal Georgia (C400/G2) | Tidewater (C400/G2) | ||||||||
| Yocona Area (C500/G1) | Cape Fear (C400/G2) | ||||||||
| Black Warrior (C400/G2) | Old Hickory (C300/G2) | ||||||||
Key Factors of Restructuring
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| Legend C#/G# = Council Class/Grade | |||||||||
71.178.130.163 (talk) 14:04, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- @North8000 and JGHowes: Have you seen this? I think it's accurate. How can we integrate it into one of the articles? --evrik (talk) 05:33, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
Comment: The chart is in a more readable pdf format here: https://www.scouting.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Restructure-of-Councils-by-Territory.pdf . As I understand it, the "Churchill Plan" at this point is still under study and not yet implemented, according to this: https://scoutingwire.org/understanding-the-churchill-plan-and-what-it-means-for-scouting/
- Besides council/regional changes, two of the significant program recommendations are:
- terminate Learning for Life;
- eliminate Sea Scouting as a separate branch.
- Unless it's adopted for implementation, the Churchill Plan is still WP:CRYSTALBALL, so at most a brief mention of the study being undertaken in 2019 would suffice, citing https://scoutingwire.org/understanding-the-churchill-plan-and-what-it-means-for-scouting/ . JGHowes talk 13:28, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the ping. My thoughts are similar to JGHowes.....BTW, I've been is BSA for 61 years and in district service for 50 years and never heard of anything coming from or relevant to the regional level organization. Although a long time ago they had pseudo-national bases nameed by regions, e.g. Region 7 and Region 10 canoe bases. The only time I know that regional organization exist is when I drive past a regional HQ and wonder what they do there. North8000 (talk) 19:58, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
- @North8000 and JGHowes: I think that Regions of the Boy Scouts of America, and have been replaced with these new ideas. I think we should fold the four regional articles into one and develop a new article. --evrik (talk) 14:08, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
- www
.scouting .org /outdoor-programs /properties /territory-maps 71.178.129.42 (talk) 15:14, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
New article
[edit]- @North8000, Reywas92, and Buffs: How do we best make an article out of this? --evrik (talk) 19:47, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
Would be good if we could find out what infrastructure there is for each of these. Staffing, office etc.. If we don't find much it might be best to just expand the section in the BSA article a bit and put in links to the BSA info on maps etc. Either as external links or as references. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 21:56, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
- I think it's best to simply outline what the territories are and leave it at that. A map would be sufficient Buffs (talk) 22:02, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
- I've started a draft, Draft:National Service Territories. --evrik (talk) 03:05, 3 April 2023 (UTC)