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Good articleCovering of the Senne has been listed as one of the Geography and places good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Did You KnowOn this day... Article milestones
DateProcessResult
December 24, 2007Good article nomineeNot listed
January 20, 2008Good article reassessmentListed
Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on November 14, 2007.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ...that the covering of the Senne River (construction pictured) created the major boulevards of Brussels?
On this day... Facts from this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on February 13, 2008, February 13, 2009, February 13, 2010, February 13, 2012, February 13, 2013, February 13, 2015, February 13, 2017, February 13, 2019, February 13, 2020, February 13, 2022, and February 13, 2023.
Current status: Good article

Images

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Which map do you think is more useful; the current one at the left of the page, or the one I added a link to at the bottom? -Oreo Priest 15:07, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Factors to consider: 1) The one currently on the page is older than the Charleroi Canal, so will be somewhat inaccurate in that regard. 2) The one at the bottom does not show all of the Lesser Senne, though it does show some of it. -Oreo Priest 15:47, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I like the one in the link more because it seems more aesthetically pleasing.Zeus1234 17:15, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I was thinking that too. I think I may try to get a cartographer to spiff it up, with labels and stuff. -Oreo Priest 17:50, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

We should also grab some pictures of the city before and during the voûtement. -Oreo Priest 15:49, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think I've added an appropriate set of images. I think they still need to be rearranged somehow. Thoughts? -Oreo Priest 00:28, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The problem with the images is that the two last ones descend past the body of the article. I think that the way to solve this would be to get rid of the second and fourth prize photos. It seems a bit too much to show three photos of buildings in the competition. I think that showing the cat house is sufficient. Then the photo of the treatment plant can be moved into the body. Zeus1234 08:38, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I think the article looks much better now. Do you agree? Zeus1234 08:41, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I still think it leaves something to be desired. Perhaps we should axe the photo of the Greater Sluice Gate, I'm not sure it adds much. I'm also thinking of adding [a city map from 1883 to provide context for what the city looks like now. Thoughts? -Oreo Priest 10:41, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
While the map is nice, I don't really think we need two maps in the same article, especially since you can't really see the difference between the older map and the new one. I do think however that there are the right number of images in the article now and it is not too crowded. I'll leave the photos up to you. Zeus1234 10:56, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dutch

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Yes, in Dutch it is always referred to as de overwelving van de Zenne. It's a shame that the Dutch wikipedia suffers from a chronical lack of city-related articles (not only Brussels, but also Antwerp etc). Where does your interest in Brussels come from actually? Hooiwind 11:56, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This article

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Could really use a modern before/after map - the one shown is not clear, nor is the written description. pschemp | talk 18:46, 14 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it could. I've scoured the internet looking for one, but I came up with nothing. I know Suys' original proposal in the Brussels archives is exactly that, but I don't think I'd be able to access it. -Oreo Priest 19:03, 14 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
So make one. Or find someone who can. There are a ton of user created maps on wikipedia. pschemp | talk 14:10, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've just asked User:MapMaster, so things should be underway shortly. -Oreo Priest 16:39, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've run in to technical difficulties involved with superimposing old maps on modern maps -- and I've not been on Wikipedia much during the past month. Am working on it. A 2nd draft is at Image:Image-Covering of the Senne-2nd draft.png. MapMaster (talk) 22:50, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GA assessment

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GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose quality:
    B. MoS compliance:
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. References to sources:
    B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
    C. No original research:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:
    B. Focused:
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
    B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:


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2:

  • Some prose appears to violate WP:NOR, e.g. “boulevards which are characteristic”, “rarely mentioned in tourist literature”, “making matters worse”, “the idea was ahead of its time”, etc. If this prose is not original research, citations will need to be provided.

3:

  • Construction section is unduly short, exacerbated that ca. half of the prose therein addresses opposition, not construction. Opposition should have an independent section and construction should receive appropriate weight.
  • Article does not elaborate on “technical difficulties” experienced.
  • Article says church’s “style [was] no longer popular with the people and its presence considered embarrassing” but then says “The facade of the church was preserved by being disassembled and moved to serve as the façade for the St. Trinity Church”. Why was it preserved if it was unpopular and embarrassing? How would a façade be embarrassing, by the way?

4:

  • Several words hint at WP:NPOV violations, e.g. “was only finished”, “should finally be capable”, “the monotony of the boulevards”, etc.
    • Completion 25 years later not seem very POV to emphasize that that's a long time. "Finally" in 2007 after centuries of water problems also seems NPOV to me. I can replace "monotony" with "uniformity" if you want, but it seems like a minor change. -Oreo Priest 22:02, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

6:

General:

I've listed the article for reassessment after the last reviewer insisted on some minort changes which would have been to the detriment of the article. -Oreo Priest 15:51, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This article was nominated for good article reassessment to determine whether or not it met the good article criteria and so can be listed as a good article. The result was that the article was listed as a GA. Please see the archived discussion for further information. Geometry guy 17:00, 20 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Downtown?"

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What does 'downtown Brussels' mean? To me as an English speaker, that means the South of the town. But I think that the most interesting channeling was in the centre (or slightly East). Only the Gare du Midi/Zuidstation was built in the marshes to the south. And before you get there on Eurostar, you pass the excellent new sewerage works - which complete the story. 86.158.25.171 (talk) 17:36, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Downtown is commonly used in many countries to mean Central business district. Akld guy (talk) 04:00, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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"the City of Brussels' then-mayor"

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I find this construction cumbersome. I modified it to "the mayor of the City of Brussels," but my modification was undone by @User:Jason Lagos under the pretext that the original is "more accurate & harmonised with other articles on the subject."

(You could arguably add "then" ("the then mayor..."), but it's obvious from the context that we're talking about the mayor at that time and not the mayor of any other time.)

I strongly disagree with the "more accurate" description, but I will obviously not enter an edit battle.

If it is indeed "harmonised with other articles on the subject" then I suggest those other articles be changed too.

Interestingly, the page linked to is called "List of mayors of the City of Brussels" and not "List of the City of Brussels' mayors."

Opinions? Páraic Maguire 11:57, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]