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Requested move 23 July 2019[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved automatically due to lack of opposition. (non-admin closure) Red Slash 23:55, 3 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Freckled hardyheadCraterocephalus lentiginosus – A fish species that is not well known by the general public and which has only been recognized by scientists for 32 years. Article was titled a variant of Prince Regent hardyhead for the last 12 years. WP:GOOGLETESTs have problems, but Google reports 150 results for "Freckled hardyhead", 250 for "Prince Regent hardyhead" and 1270 for Craterocephalus lentiginosus. What evidence supports Wikipedia using a common/vernacular name for this poorly-known species instead of the the system of scientific names for organisms which has been widely accepted for the last 250 years? Is there actually an audience of readers that recognizes "hardyhead" as a term referring to fishes, but who are confused by scientific names? If "hardyhead" is widely recognized as a term for fishes, what evidence supports "freckled" vs. "Prince regent"? The scientific name precisely describes the scope of this article. Redirects from vernacular names will guide readers searching from those terms to this article regardless of the title. What purpose is served by arbitrarily selecting one of several vernacular names for a title when a scientific name satisfies all of the WP:CRITERIA (other than (arguably) WP:RECOGNIZABILITY (and does anybody really recognize that a "hardyhead" is a fish?). Plantdrew (talk) 03:34, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Move - I know I prefer linnean names to fickle common names anyway, but I also agree with Plantdrew, above. --Nessie (talk) 14:23, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Binomial name gets slightly more results than Freckled hardyhead or Prince Regent hardyhead on Google Scholar (21 vs. 6, and 15), and around the same number of Google Books results as Prince Regent hardyhead. Colin M (talk) 15:23, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I moved it to freckled hardyhead because that is the common name used by Fishbase and by Fishes of Australia. I am, however, happy for the article title to be the binomial.Quetzal1964 (talk) 19:23, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support One of those "common names" that is only likely to be familiar to those who also know the scientific name. William Avery (talk) 12:44, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.