Talk:Crippled Summer/GA1
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Reviewer: Xtzou (Talk) 19:15, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I am reviewing this article for GA. I have done some minor copy editing and have the following comments to make.
- Comments
- Towelie - I don't get him. What does he look like? A towel? - okay, now I've watched the episode, but I still think a little more could be explained in the article.
- Is there not a link to the character description on another page?--TimothyJacobson (talk) 12:05, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
- "excessive use of marijuana, crystal meth, heroin and crack cocaine" - would not any use of heroin and crack cocaine be considered excessive, for example?
- "soliciting oral sex to strangers for money in the alleys" - this doesn't sound right - "solicit from"? "offering oral sex to strangers"?
- "The boys set up Towelie to go in a room so they can give emotional speeches to him as a plea to help him from killing himself" - very involved sentence. Can you leave out "to go in a room"?
- "He refuses their pleas until Butters reveals Towelie's child" - Towelie didn't know about his child?
- "Later, it is discovered that Towelie completed rehab" - passive voice; who discovered?
- "but is repeatedly foiled from Mimsy misinterpreting his instructions" - repeated foiled by?
- "Parker and fellow series co-creator Matt Stone originally planned for the tenth season episode "A Million Little Fibers" to be about Towelie's struggle to overcome addiction in the style of the television series Intervention, with the children and residents of South Park coming together to help him, just as it was done in "Crippled Summer". However, after writing portions of the story for the tenth season episode, they found they did not know where to bring the story or how to resolve it, so they completely revamped the episode and focused it on talk show host Oprah Winfrey and the controversy surrounding the James Frey book A Million Little Pieces." - I don't understand this. Are you saying this episode focused on Oprah Winfrey etc., as Oprah is not mentioned in the plot? If not, why do you have all this here?
- What I'm saying here is that the idea of an Intervention parody about Towelie's addiction (the basis of "Crippled Summer") was originally planned to be used for this "A Little Million Fibers" episode, but once they had trouble resolving it, they scrapped it and switched the focus to Oprah instead. I thought this was clear already in the wording, but I tried to tweak it a bit. If it is still unclear, let me know and I'll try rewording it again... — Hunter Kahn 20:57, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
- "Not all reviews of "Crippled Summer" were positive. MTV writer Adam Rosenberg found the episode almost entirely funny," - do you mean "unfunny"?
Otherwise, things look ok. I may add more comments.
Xtzou (Talk) 19:15, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
- I responded to all your comments and made the appropriate changes. (Please see my one note above regarding the Oprah bit.) Thanks! — Hunter Kahn 20:57, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Query
- Is this new addition http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/05/04/cable-rankings-18-4918-34-nba-playoffs-top-18-49-viewing-south-park-the-hills-tops-with-18-34/50482 considered a reliable source? The "About" section says it is run by two newbie guys. Xtzou (Talk) 21:51, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
- TV by the Numbers has been talked about before (see here and here). I find TBTN to be a very reliable source (I've used it in just about every television episode article I've ever written, including the ones you've reviewed.) Not only do they provide more info on Nielsen ratings than any other source out there, but they have been quoted and cited by major newspapers, which I think indicates it is legitimate. The New York Times has it on their sources list (see the "Blogroll" section of this page), and the site has been quoted by many reliable sources like The New York Times, The New York Post and others. — Hunter Kahn 22:04, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
- Okay. I admit their numbers seemed well thought out. I think the episode is hilarious. Especially Towelie. Xtzou (Talk) 22:13, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
- lol Me too. — Hunter Kahn 22:35, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
- Okay. I admit their numbers seemed well thought out. I think the episode is hilarious. Especially Towelie. Xtzou (Talk) 22:13, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
- TV by the Numbers has been talked about before (see here and here). I find TBTN to be a very reliable source (I've used it in just about every television episode article I've ever written, including the ones you've reviewed.) Not only do they provide more info on Nielsen ratings than any other source out there, but they have been quoted and cited by major newspapers, which I think indicates it is legitimate. The New York Times has it on their sources list (see the "Blogroll" section of this page), and the site has been quoted by many reliable sources like The New York Times, The New York Post and others. — Hunter Kahn 22:04, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
- Is it reasonably well written?
- A. Prose quality:
Clear writing
- B. MoS compliance:
Complies with the basic MoS
- A. Prose quality:
- Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
- A. References to sources:
Sources are reliable
- B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
Well referenced
- C. No original research:
- A. References to sources:
- Is it broad in its coverage?
- A. Major aspects:
Sets the context
- B. Focused:
} Remains focused on topic
- A. Major aspects:
- Is it neutral?
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- Is it stable?
- No edit wars, etc:
- No edit wars, etc:
- Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
- A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
- B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
- A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
- Overall:
- Pass or Fail: Pass!
- Pass or Fail: Pass!
Nice job! Xtzou (Talk) 22:43, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
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