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[edit]This page makes no mention of traditional Russian medicines, which is an important aspect of Russian culture. Wikiproject traditional medicine hopes to change that, but needs your support to get started. The projects goal is to detail medical anthropological knowledge of organisms and minerals used in traditional Russian medicine; along with those of all other traditional cultures to create a detailed pharmacopoeia accessible by anyone. Given the landmass of Russia a number of organisms and minerals must exist which are currently not mentioned under any article; russian traditions and superstitions makes to mention of organisms or minerals. Please support this project to promote multicultural education on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CensoredScribe (talk • contribs) 01:54, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Author?
[edit]Was this article written by Vladamir Putin? It's poorly written and has a twinge of arrogance. If you wanna see how a culture article should be written see the "Culture of Germany" article :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sooofisticated0499 (talk • contribs) 05:14, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Sad to see Wikipedia as another tool of US political propoganda. LOL — Preceding unsigned comment added by Челдон (talk • contribs) 14:16, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Removal
[edit]I removed the redirect from the moving Falphin 01:20, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I will be adding additional things I don't get to tommow as well. Falphin 01:39, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Modeling
[edit]I'm modeling this article after Culture of China. So I still have a long ways to go with this but I going to stop until tommorow after one last last edit. Falphin 02:29, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I'm quitting for now, but it still need a lot more. Falphin 15:21, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Sentence?
[edit]"After Stalin died Soviet Art went into decline after Stalin's death as gradually Russians artists became more independent of the state and in the 1980's the government ruled that it could not restrict what Russians artists could paint."
This sentence makes no sense and I don't want to try to edit because I'm not sure what it is trying to say. It seems contradictory to say that after Stalin died art went into decline because artists had more freedom... bDerrly talk contr 28 June 2005 11:39 (UTC)
Architecture
[edit]The paragraph opening up the architecture section needs some more clear thoughts. I don't know enough about the topic to do it myself. Things that need to be cleaned up include "Later by Soviet culture..." I don't already know what effect Soviet culture had on architecture that is why I'm reading a section about architecture in the Soviet culture article.
"...which took style around the 11th century." I don't know if this means churches weren't built before the 11th century or if the style used today didn't come into being until the 11th century. Needs clarification.
Basically we just need more specifics. Considering most people know nothing of Russian architecture some of these sentences are very confusing and vague. bDerrly talk contr 28 June 2005 11:53 (UTC)
Opera
[edit]Need to expound why the opera artists fled the country after the October Revolution. I'm guessing it was because of the strict cultural oppression brought on by the Bolsheviks... bDerrly talk contr 28 June 2005 12:07 (UTC)
Cuisine
[edit]Definitely need more information in this category. Saying that Russia offers lots of soups, fish, cereal based products (?) and drinks just makes me curious. Give examples of some of the soups and drinks. Explain what the heck they do with cereal based foods... Perhaps an explanation of why there is little meat in the diet of the average Russian. Too poor to afford meat perhaps? If you have some Russian recipes perhaps a link to WikiBooks cookbook with some recipes of interest might be a nice touch. bDerrly talk contr 28 June 2005 12:19 (UTC)
Tourism
[edit]Yikes, this section is a painful run-on. I'll do what I can to fix some of the grammar but the content needs some clarification. Explain what the famous "white nights" are or at least link to something that does. Explain why tourists want to check out the rich traditions of the smaller town or why they want to see Vladivostok. bDerrly talk contr 28 June 2005 12:32 (UTC)
- Good points, I already removed a POV sentence but will work on this section, as next to the dance it is probably in the most need. Falphin 29 June 2005 01:51 (UTC)
Time
[edit]Its not looking like I'm going to have a chance to edit this article before my trip but I'll keep this on the priority list. Falphin 2 July 2005 15:13 (UTC)
"Highly complex"
[edit]The following phrase removed from intro.
- Modern Russian culture is highly complex and has been shaped by Czarist and Soviet influences and under the religious leadership of the Russian Orthodox Church.
- "Highly complex" is a useless phrase in encyclopedia: most national cultures are complex.
- "czarist and Soviet influences" is laughable phrasing in its primitivity, esecially the "czarist influence" part.
- "Religious leadership" is an unfortunate phrasing: it is applicable only to certain periods.
Inherently, the phrase is correct: every culture is complex and bears traces of all time periods in their history. But is is constructed in a totally wrong way. mikka (t) 17:46, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks for noticing the page. I do disagree on your final point. Religious leadership is 100% about Russian culture. Religious leadership affected them from Ancient Rus till the end of the Czarist period. After that they played an important underground role which simply affected the culture in a different way. And now in modern Russia, the leadership of the Russian Orthodox Church plays an extremely important role in politics and social issues. Falphin 20:34, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
- I am afraid I have disagree with the usage of the term "leadership" in this context, although I don't deny its influence. I absolutely agree that the Russian Orthodox faith shaped the Russian culture, but an attempt to put the Church in the "leadership" position is a politicizing of the issue. mikka (t) 20:50, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
- One other note, I have created a page to try to revise the article. My goal is to get this to FAC level by next summer. There is no culture article that has reached FAC yet and in my opinion this is sadly about as good as any other culture article right now. User:Falphin/Russian culture.
- As a note, I like how the culture is described as 'rich and colourful', I'd love to see a culture article where the subject is described as 'simple and bland'. 70.70.97.117 09:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Culture of Russia
[edit]Culture of Russia and Russian culture require a major rewrite to draw a clear separation between the two. I started the stub "Culture of Russia" to indicate the idea, but I am in no way a "kulturtreher". My sole goal was to indicate the "velikoderzhavny shovinizm" ("Great Russia chauvinism") tendency and initiate the struggle against it. mikka (t) 18:23, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
Kamarinskaya
[edit]Here it was written:
The first known opera made in Russia was A Life for the Tsar by Mikhail Glinka in 1836. This was followed by several operas like Ruslan and Lyudmila in 1842 and Kamarinskaya in 1848.
This was a bad mistake, Kamarinskaya was not an opera at all, but a piece for orchestra, I've cut it out. (Meladina 23:22, 5 May 2006 (UTC))
Interwiki
[edit]I tried to add the spanish interwiki but the page it's semi-protected... Could someone add it, please?? [[es:Cultura de Rusia]] Thank U!!! Chuck Norris Tell me everything 12:06, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
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Clean-up
[edit]I just spent about an hour or so completely revamping the article; changing wordings, grammar, expanding, etc. I'm satisfied with it now, but it could still probably use some editing. LikeHolyWater (talk) 03:11, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
This page is written like a summer holiday essay
[edit]The first paragraph of this page is awful. It is impossible to source most of the claims here "Russians are also known for their sense of humour" and is presented in short bulletin sentences. The use of intensifiers is also a problem. Please aid me in improving it.
Here is an example paragraph I've written to replace the first one:
"Russia culture has been an importance influence in the areas of art, music and literature throughout the Russia's history. Russian writers, composers and artists are a source of national pride to Russians, and their works are not only integral parts of Russian society, but have also global reputations for ingenuity in their areas of expertise. Russian literature and art have contributed to many literary genres [modernism?] and different forms of art...[some examples maybe]"
Of course the facts need to be cited and more precise, I'm not an expert on Russian culture but I think that the opening paragraph is so useless that even using this draft would be an improvement.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.180.9.43 (talk) 12:11, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
- Indeed, this page needs much improvement. I have nearly completed my work on Russia article, perhaps I would improve this article as well. For now I can advice to take some material from Russia#Culture, Russia#Tourism, Russia#Religion and Russia#Language and bring it here. Greyhood (talk) 12:42, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
The section on hockey and how russia become the leaders in hockey is b.s. needs to be backed up with solid evidence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.75.139.28 (talk) 02:39, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
Time to trim some images
[edit] Don't sandwich text between two images or boxes. See Wikipedia:Image#Location.Moxy (talk) 08:48, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
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Holidays
[edit]These sentences are horridly structured. I hate to sound arrogant, but it appears as English is not the primary language of whoever wrote this section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.69.149.31 (talk) 00:20, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
Unsourced
[edit]remove unsourced materials from the article--RussianMuslims (talk) 23:53, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
Add Islamic culture, it is not mentioned!!--RussianMuslims (talk) 00:17, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
- RussianMuslims, do you have reliable, independent sources for the information you want to add? I'm sure Islam has had an effect on Russian culture; you need to back it up with sources, though. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 00:51, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
- NO you don't that like adding source to scientific facts!!--RussianMuslims (talk) 00:53, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
- All Wikipedia content should be based off of reliable, independent sources. Some of what you added is in fact contradicted by the sources. For example, you changed "the synthesis of Slavic and Byzantine cultures" to "the synthesis of Muslims and Byzantine cultures", but the source after that sentence, this, explicitly talks about a synthesis of Slavic and Byzantine cultures, and does not mention Muslim culture at all. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 00:57, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
- i will add source to that?--RussianMuslims (talk) 01:02, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
here is a source this.--RussianMuslims (talk) 01:07, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
- But how does that justify removing the mention of Slavic people from that sentence entirely? And what about your other changes, like removing the Third Rome idea and Peter the Great's reforms? I'm also not entirely sure if that site has the editorial oversight needed to be reliable. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 01:12, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
slavic is not an ideology or cultures Islam is an ideology--RussianMuslims (talk) 01:21, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
also there is nothing as third or fourth idea that is just made up and even more not relevant to the topic--RussianMuslims (talk) 01:26, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
- These changes are way too much, and too crude, but more on minorities is needed I think. Johnbod (talk) 10:52, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
Contradictionary statement
[edit]@Howicus:, hello, good evening, you claim here that its against the sources. Could you show me where in this article these so-called sources are stated? That will make it perhaps more easier for me to add my sources next to them as well. Because frankly, I dont see any sources here, but that might be me. In general, my point is, its impossible to disregard the Scythian/Sarmatian contribution to the Early Slavic ethnogenesis, which in turn was the foundation of the Russian ethnogenesis (and culture). Bests - LouisAragon (talk) 03:27, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
- I'm not sure he'd noticed your change, which I put back (in versions where there isn't a mosque at the top). You stumbled into a lively edit-war. Johnbod (talk) 10:51, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
- Oh, I'm sorry LouisAragon, it was a little late and I did not notice your edit. My edit summary was directed at RussianMuslims, not you. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 20:01, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
To rename article
[edit]I think Culture of Russia is more relevant name, because it is not only about culture of ethnic group, but mostly about professional culture of Russia, which was created not only by people of Russian ethnicity. Cathry (talk) 11:26, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
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[edit]I removed * Friendship: Russia as a "See Also" link, because "Friendship" isn't mentioned anywhere on this page, and Russia isn't mentioned on, or event relevant to, the target page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GlenBarney (talk • contribs) 01:47, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
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