Talk:Dénouement
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Example
[edit]From the article:
- In An Inspector Calls, the denouement consists of Mr. Birling receiving a phone call saying that a police inspector is on his way to ask some questions. This comes as a shock to the audience as well as the characters because they had just found out that the police inspector Goole which just left was a fraud. This is considered a denouement because it occurs at the end of the story and serves to tie up any loose ends that might otherwise interfere with the audience's feeling of completion to the story.
What is the point of this obscure example? If someone has a clearly illustration of denouement, that might be helpful? (Posted in the article by User:NickelShoe @ 14:30, 5 September 2005)
- No bleeding clue, love. I guess the author wanted to show off his/her extensive knowledge of An Inspector Class by posting this sneering, arrogant, and altogether priggish example. Or perhaps the author is just an asshole (Posted in the article by 71.114.90.141 @ 22:45, 26 November 2005)
Though still short, I rewrote a good deal of this article, adding new, legit examples and a clearer definition as well as external links. Although it's still short (and perhaps still considered a stub), hopefully it reads better than it did before. I'd love to see it expanded! (Maria 18:41, 28 February 2006 (UTC))
Just my opinion (thus not to add to the article ;) but I more and more get the feeling that the art of Denouement is a forgotten art in most new TV series/films
Do you think that the "Evil overlord who tells the hero all details of his plan" phenomen could fit into this article? Couldn't that be described as a kind of "deliberate and incompetent try of denouement"?
- Of course. Go take a look at the entry for A Miracle of Science and read the section on Mad Science. :) Maura Dailey 02:03, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Lord of the Flies
[edit]Spoiler alert...Question. Did LOTF really not have a denoument? I seem to remember that it was a very short one, but it did exist. Is there a sort of limit on how short a denoument can be to be legitimate?
Yes it did have a denouement, albeit a very short one. Ralph is pursued down the beach by Jack's forces when he meets a marine officer who has come to take them off the island. Realising he is saved, Ralph bursts into tears of relief. Rather dull really. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.145.240.21 (talk) 12:57, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Harry Potter SPOILER?
[edit]I really felt that The Deathly Hallows really did not have a Denouement. It kind of just goes right into the epilogue. Anyone agree? Flem12 03:46, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
Not at all. Voldemort's demise and the resulting celebrations were the Denouement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.145.240.21 (talk) 12:49, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
I completely disagree with the first statement. The Denoument was pretty much the whole book. I see the series as Philosophers Stone the Introduction (where we meet Harry, Ron, Hermoine, Voldemort, et cetera,) the second two books the rising action (Harry begins having trouble, and builds his positive characteristics and solidifying his friendships), The fourth book as the climax (the return of Voldemort and the events leading up to it) the fifth and sixth as the falling action (Voldemort is back, people die...) and the 7th as the Denouement (Harry kills Voldemort, and what happens to everyone else). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.45.92.66 (talk) 22:04, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
I'll be a named poster who agrees with you, Flem12. The climax of the book is when Harry defeats Voldemort and then you're given a mere six pages that aren't even used to ease the reader down. Not much effort used for Dénouement on the author's part there, just continued plot resolution which doesn't always qualify as Dénouement. Don't get me wrong, I'm as much a Harry Potter fan as the rest of the fans (note the "muggle" in my username!) - and I still enjoyed the story, but Deathly Hallows BADLY needed to spend more time in editing, however it seems everyone involved was in a hurry to get it published.--Pittsburghmuggle (talk) 22:44, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
vs Resolution?
[edit]It would be helpful to know in which ways this differs from a resolution? --Eptin (talk) 07:01, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Great Expectations: Pip and Estella's Marriage? What?
[edit]As far as I know, Pip and Estella never get married. It is somewhat implied, but certainly does not take place in the book. I would change it myself, but, I admit,I have only ever read the slightly abridged version from my high school English text book, and I don't want to switch it without making sure I'm right about this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.30.184.32 (talk) 01:06, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
You're quite right about this. There's in fact a moment of ambiguity there, which I don't see but other people do. There is no marriage portrayed, though; that's certain. Nedlum (talk) 10:14, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Peripeteial
[edit]This word is not found in Google. Is this supposed to be "Peripeteia", which exists on Wikipedia? Quebec99 (talk) 13:46, 31 October 2009 (UTC)