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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Kavyansh.Singh (talk09:55, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

* ... that the 14th Dalai Lama crossed the river Brahmaputra during his escape into Indian exile? Source: Tsangpo river valley ... only river crossing pp.214–215, Tibet in Agony, Lhasa 1959; Jianglin Li and below. ** ALT1: ... that the Tibetan State Oracle was consulted three times before the Dalai Lama escaped from China into Indian exile? Source: Over the last two consultations .... the oracle asked him to stay in Tibet ...for the third and last time the Oracle was consulted ... pp.43-44, The Tibet Journal Vol. 45, No. 2, Special Issue: 5th Symposium in Memory of Prof. Dawa Norbu

    • ALT2: ... that Mao Zedong initially approved the Dalai Lama's escape into Indian exile but then ordered to prevent it? Source: Mao did issue bold instructions on the 12 March not to stop the Dalai Lama and his consorts if they tried to flee, Mao's position had changed in the afternoon of the 17 March and ordered the Politburo to "make every effort to prevent the Dalai Lama's escape", p.218, Tibet in Agony, Lhasa 1959, Jianglin Li

** ALT3: ... that the Tibetan State Oracle penned down the route which the Dalai Lama should take for his escape into Indian exile? Source: the Oracle penned down the route which he should take to reach safely India. p.44 The Tibet Journal Vol. 45, No. 2, Special Issue: 5th Symposium in Memory of Prof. Dawa Norbu (Over JSTOR)

Created by Paradise Chronicle (talk). Self-nominated at 18:13, 21 January 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi @Paradise Chronicle: thanks for this interesting article. I have a preference for ALT2, as it goes to the core of the story. However, the relevant section in the article doesn't then answer the questions a reader will likely have, such as "why did he change his mind" and "why did they fail to stop the escape". I have just read the section of Jianglin Li that you sourced – the story appears to be that the day Mao finally ordered the escape to be stopped was the same day that the Dalai Lama decided to leave, but that by then it was too late as they were behind the curve on intelligence gathering. Could you add a few sentences into that section just to round it out? Onceinawhile (talk) 22:18, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
On the broader review, it is new enough, long enough, properly sourced, and stable. Onceinawhile (talk) 23:04, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the review. I am currently looking to add some phrases on why Mao Zedong changed his mind.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 23:08, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I have added some phrases on the Chinese position to the escape.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 00:42, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks. It works well. This is good to go. Onceinawhile (talk) 06:23, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Promoting ALT2 to Prep 2Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 09:55, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Escape"

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You mean flight? Departure? Do you even know what "neutrality" means? Pathetic. 142.189.96.88 (talk) 22:35, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, what is the issue? Do you believe the Dalai Lama left voluntarily and China wanted to keep him as spiritual leader in Tibet or begin negotiations on a potential status/autonomy? The Dalai Lama left because he was persecuted, and in English to get away from persecution is rather commonly called an escape. You can begin a move discussion if you want.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 02:37, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]