Talk:Dance Valley

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is "Dance Valley" include "DANCE" too?

Dance Valley 2001[edit]

Dance Valley 2001 was one of the best music festivals I've ever attended. Absolutely awesome. The post-festival experience was deplorable.

Dance Valley 2001 was a significant distance from regular transport links. The transport plan to get into the festival was great. We got there very quickly via the plentiful chartered bus routes provided by the organisers. If there was a transport plan to get people out, it must've read "good luck 90,000 punters, because that many buses are expensive at that time of night.".

After the festival ended, we waited for a few hours at the festival bus area. The entire time we were there, we saw zero staff providing information. But, every so often a single bus would arrive and so we assumed a massive convoy of buses would turn up "any minute now". After all, we were in the middle of nowhere, transport-wise. The organisers knew how many buses were needed to get us into this place, so they obviously knew how many were needed to get us out.

The frequency of buses declined. Eventually it became apparent there were no more coming. It seemed that some people knew how to walk out of there... plus, it had started to rain. So, we started walking in near freezing rainy conditions. That was sometime around midnight, I think.

Since Dance Valley was a (mainly) daytime festival and the weather was really nice that day, most people had minimal clothing. As I walked, I had to wake a number of individuals sleeping under trees beside the road and get them to keep walking. I assumed the groups of people huddled under trees would be safe from hypothermia, despite everyone being thoroughly rain-soaked. The stream of people gradually got dispersed as people took different routes at crossroads. I have no idea if we stuck with the best group. After several hours, the group we were with got to a station. However, the first train wasn't departing until later that day... thankfully, despite regulations, the rail staff allowed us all to stay inside the train until departure... not sure they had much choice there, though.

In the following days, the Dutch media reported that a number of people died from exposure that night.

Why is there no mention of the fact that the "several cases of hypothermia" actually includes people who died? Probably due to the reason I'm not editing the main article to include that information... I cannot find any online references to verify it.

The statement "busses and other transport were overwhelmed" is true. The number of buses organisers provided for disembarkation was miniscule. Providing 50 buses for 90,000 people will obviously result in buses being overwhelmed. Even if you disregard the fact organisers knew how many buses were provided to get people into Dance Valley, it was a ticketed event. They knew how many people were there. Therefore, they knew how many buses would be needed to get people out.

The statement "To complicate matters further, a rainstorm erupted and drenched stranded party goers on their way home" is simply outrageous. How does a transport plan get complicated by rain? At worst, it means that people get on a bus while they're wet... I have zero doubt that every person there would have loved the opportunity to get onto a bus, even when soaking wet. Which begs the question...

Question : If we were "on our way home", how did we get drenched?

Answer: We were walking home because there was no other option. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kordau (talk • contribs) 12:51, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]