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The meaning of "Danganronpa"[edit]

According to Jsho: Japanese Dictionary:

  • Dangan: bullet, shot, shell
  • Ronpa: defeating in an argument, winning in an argument, refutation, confutation

I think it should be noted that Danganronpa means "defeating/winning in an argument with a bullet" which makes more sense since it reflects the gameplay... إلياس الجزائري (talk) 09:10, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Split proposed[edit]

@TarkusAB: So the sugggested split would be like List of Kingdom Hearts media? Then again I doubt I can make those big tables.Tintor2 (talk) 20:48, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You may have to explain what the split proposal is to those not in the know. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:53, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. My proposal is to split the Media section in this article to its own article, List of Danganronpa media. My reasoning is the section is too large and this puts the franchise more in line with how other video game media franchises are treated. Simple tables are easy to make in the visual editor. If you want to make more complex tables, you'll just have to learn. It's not that difficult, you can practice in your sandbox. TarkusABtalk/contrib 21:00, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support splitting the media off into a List of Danganronpa media and summarizing it in prose in the series article.--AlexandraIDV 21:04, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Forgot leaving my vote. Especially with all these manga books, the media would be easier to understand if the printed versions are divided.Tintor2 (talk) 17:34, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@TarkusAB: Not sure but should the manga anthology versions also be given their own seperated tables despite them being only one book?Tintor2 (talk) 13:34, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know, I'm not that familiar with this franchise to be honest. TarkusABtalk/contrib 13:40, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@TarkusAB: I'll create the article but could you give me a hand with the table of the games? I really messed up the format.Tintor2 (talk) 23:06, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What should be in overview?[edit]

It seems there was a massive expansion in overview including every single book, including red links. Shouldn't the overview section of a gaming franchise should focus primarily only on the video games. We might have to reconsider this.Tintor2 (talk) 18:34, 17 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It should mention the major titles with proper articles; main series, the spin-off, any notable media that's got an actual article to its name. But the current version is sheer bloat that belongs as a list in a media article. Looks like it's been copy-pasted from the Wikia page on the series. These first few seconds just need a rewrite basically. --ProtoDrake (talk) 19:50, 17 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I would suggest the premise should be very high level - the general theme of the games/media (I've only played a bit of one but as I understand "Students get trapped inside a school, and are killed off one by one. They must confront each other and find clues to reveal the murderer.") Then you can have a Games H2 (two "==" signs) section to go into the primary games and their general gameplay, as well as address the spinoffs and the collection. Then the Dev section and associated media. --Masem (t) 20:06, 17 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I rearranged the multiple light novels into the printed section of other media. The first light novel and 3 anime was created by the original author though but I still moved them.Tintor2 (talk) 21:00, 17 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I echo Masem's suggestion. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 19:07, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Rearranged per Masem's suggestion. Thanks.Tintor2 (talk) 14:17, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Masem: Forgot about asking this but should the table focus only on the games or it's okay now? There are only three main titles and few spinoffs.Tintor2 (talk) 17:37, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Probably should cite which platforms it's available for.[edit]

It's not actually in the text (at least, not for all platforms in the list), so it could use a citation. Could either have a table near the end detailing releases, or do it in the infobox, but - while I don't doubt the information's true - we do try to cite everything here that isn't very basic indeed (grass is green stuff). Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.7% of all FPs 22:18, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Adam Cuerden: Where do you suggest adding them? In overview or some sort of "releases" and "compilation" sections?Tintor2 (talk) 00:35, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

    • I'd say near or at the end of the article, since it's one of those things where it should be mentioned, but which takes some time to do so, and - beyond the simplified information in the infobox - is among the least important things to know for most readers. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.7% of all FPs 04:50, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      • I'd argue it would fit well within the gameplay section, or change the ordering a bit and replace the premise with a level 2 header of "overview", and have premise and gameplay as subsections. The second para of premise about the iOS ports and such doesn't really fit where it is now. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:39, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
        • I don't think it matters much exactly how we do it, but when the releases happened and for what systems should appear and be cited. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.7% of all FPs 13:52, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Novels and other articles[edit]

User:Alexandra IDV and User:Lee Vilenski I don't know too much about the novels of Danganronpa but it appears none of them were licensed by Western publishers. Even more, while an anon has tried creating the Kirigiri novel article, I asked him if he could at least write the plot section for Kyoko's character but he didn't even knew the actual plot. Not even the Danganronpa wiki seems to know. It appears only the manga adaptation of Trigger and Goodbye were published based on my experience with writing the articles for Makoto and other characters. Should the novels be merged into the media articles? I have access to the Trigger manga but response but nothing in regards to its creation. Also, I wonder if List of Danganronpa: The Animation episodes should simply be moved to Danganronpa: The Animation since both article pretty much say the same thing in contrast to the End of Hope's Peak Academy article where I managed to find a lot about its creation.Tintor2 (talk) 19:18, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Probably, unless some solid (likely Japanese) RS coverage can be found - I notice that Danganronpa Togami mostly cites storefronts and database sites and doesn't do anything to demonstrate notability. Personally, I've read some of Danganronpa Zero several years back, and I've watched the DR3 anime, but otherwise I'm also not very familiar with the spin-off media, so I'm unlikely to work on any of these.--AlexandraIDV 19:28, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merged Togami and Killer Killer since none of them are licensed. Not sure about the Genocider Mode since, while the manga is licensed in English regions by Dark Horse Comics, I didn't even play Despair Girls.Tintor2 (talk) 21:45, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I find it unlikely anything outside of the anime is notable, but, if you do find sourcing, that's fine. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 21:51, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

grammar and semantic content[edit]

What in God's Green Ground is the following sentence from near the beginning of the article??? Do I have to explain what is wrong here?

"Despite the similarities, the games's narratives are connected with related media expanded the story of what happens between each title.[3][4]" TheSOB (talk) 20:44, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's not worded well. Perhaps "The video games's narratives aare connected by related media, expanding the story between titles" or similar. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:52, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Table[edit]

There is a huge table centered around every single character featured in the entire franchise. It doesn't explain anything and comes across as massive Uunde and fancruft. The wikia might take that table instead based on different it is from Wikipedia.Tintor2 (talk) 22:55, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the crazy silly in-universe list of characters. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 23:03, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]


"Just calling them crew sounds like real people" Tintor2, did you read that at all? It is a table of who worked on the games. Which this page does not have. 3040Thirty (talk) 00:26, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

None of the developers are mentioned in the articles especially without sources. I recommend leaving it to another article but mentioning only notable developers like the ones Kodaka mentions in the creation sections. But tables just don't add anything.Tintor2 (talk) 04:21, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Danganrompa"[edit]

I just realized that as per WP:ROMAJI the romanization of Danganronpa should be 'Danganrompa' in Hepburn with the 'm' instead of 'n', is this something we should allude to? I personally don't mind either way, just pointing out something a lot of us would have missed. (Of course I'm not talking about the title but the thing in parentheses beside the title) Chininazu12 (talk) 00:54, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, the current Hepburn romanization is Danganronpa. Per MOS:JAPAN#Syllabic "n", "In previous forms of the Hepburn romanization, the syllabic n (ん) was transcribed as m when before b, m, or p sounds. This form has been deprecated, but remains in use in some official anglicized names". Link20XX (talk) 01:23, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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