Talk:Daniel Isom Sultan

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Hog Farm (talk · contribs) 23:39, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hog Farm, Thanks for taking this on Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 00:30, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Criteria

1. Prose ✓ Pass

2. Verifiability ✓ Pass

3. Depth of Coverage ✓ Pass

4. Neutral ✓ Pass

5. Stable ✓ Pass

6. Illustrations ✓ Pass

7. Miscellaneous ✓ Pass - comment not mandatory, but would be nice to get done

Comments

1.

"Sultan next was district engineer in Chicago, leading construction of the Great Lakes to Mississippi Waterway to July 1934" - Can we get the full date range he supervised construction of the waterway? The time span is dependent on how long it took him to write the report, which isn't obvious.

It's not immediately clear in the source, which only says "to July 1934". I've requested a newspaper article through REX that may clarify things

"October 1944. in 1945," - Capitalization
You use West Point in the lead, but the full official name in the early life section, it's probably best to have something that obviously connects the two. Maybe has (West Point) after the full name in the early life section.

Standardized to USMA, the common usage in military contexts

"becoming an All-American through playing center in football." - I'm not sure if through is the best word here. Maybe "as a center in football" or some such wording

tried "as a center in football"

Works

Link second lieutenant
" and served in the third battalion of engineers" - I feel like Third Battalion of Engineers should probably be capitalized
" was secretary of school from " - This phrasing reads a little off to me, but I'm not 100% sure what the issue is.

added 'the'?

Is "secretary of school" a title? I think that's what seems weird.

Cullum says 'secretary of school' but I'm not really aware exactly what he's referring to so I just left it as bland as I could.

I'd be fine removing if you'd want, I don't think it's exactly necessary

Link first lieutenant
Link major and lieutenant colonel
Link colonel
"from August 1923 to August 192." - Missing a digit in the latter year.
"from August 1929,[7] He arrived in Corinto" - Either the comma should be a period or the he should be lowercase
"and he soon resturned to Washington DC." - check the spelling, and I believe there should be a comma between Washington and DC.
"Sultan then worked on a report about the survey from from August 1931 to January 1932." - Duplicate word
"Sultan then worked as engineer commissioner of the District of Colombia, a member of the National Capital Park and Planning Commission" - Spelling suggests this is in South America, but the context suggests the District of Columbia
Link brigadier general
Link lieutenant general
Be consistent with date format, sometimes you use day-month-year, sometimes you use month-day-year

I've addressed all of your comments, some lingering questions.

I've done a couple minor copy edits, revert them if you don't like them.

2.

Refs 2, 3, 14 need access dates

added

3.

I think the Bronze Star deserves a mention in the main body of prose, that's an noteworthy honor
I personally think a brief mention of some of his awards would be appropriate in the lead- the Bronze Star and four Distinguished Service Medals

I'll incorporate full mention of his awards soon

added

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I don't think this is technically a GA thing, but it would look nicer if the bare link in the external links got cleaned up and formatted

Eh, removed them. Don't think they really add anything

Placing on hold. Hog Farm (talk) 21:03, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hog Farm: I believe I have addressed everything Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 13:20, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Eddie891: - One last thing. Was he a Companion of the Order of the Bath or a Commander of the Order of the Bath? The infobox gives the former, and the lead the latter. It seems that those are two separate ranks within the Order, so it would be best to use the correct one. Hog Farm (talk) 15:09, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hog Farm, CB -> companion, good catch! I agree it would be better to be correct, thanks

Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 15:12, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Passing now. Hog Farm (talk) 15:16, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]