Talk:Danke Schoen
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Danke Shane
[edit]Danke Schön is pronounced like Danke Shane in Yiddish; given the Yiddish presence in America, could this be a reason it is pronounced as such in English? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.212.106.138 (talk) 15:13, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Danke Schoen is pronounced like Danke Shane in a range of German dialects, to include most of those spoken in southern Germany. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.31.113.21 (talk) 13:44, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
The above comment is correct. Many of the High German dialects, such as the Swiss German, Austrian German, the Allemannic dialects, the Bavarian dialects, and the Franconian dialects (both the higher Franconian to the South and East and the Ripuarian Franconian dialects along the Rhine and its tributaries) tend to unround front vowels that are pronounced rounded in Standard German. So ö becomes e (English ay) and ü becomes i (English ee). Most native speakers of a German dialect in the U.S., like those who speak Pennsylvania German or Yiddish at home, speak a High German dialect in which schön (as in beautiful) is pronounced as shane and is written in dialect as scheen (Pennsylvania German) or shayn (Yiddish).Jacobfisher.treo (talk) 04:44, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
Having livd in Germany for over two years ... to inhold a six-week stint in Munich ... I can't recall ever hearing it said as "shane". It grates on my ears to hear schoen said as shane but understandable if someone told Newton that it rhym'd with pain. It only a shame that the song was so popular with the bad pronunication. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnWulf (talk • contribs) 19:49, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
Being a natural German speaker having known the language for almost 55 years I like simply to add, that in dialect "scheen" only roughly rhymes with "shane". Furthermore if you need to go to dialect at all you must know, that a Bavarian would pronounce "Danke" rather like "donkey" and end up with something like "donkey shane". But why bother at all: the pronunciation in the song is near enough, as are German attempts at pronouncing "th" or "w" - we all do our best, and there is no harm in letting people hear from where you come. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.132.48.66 (talk) 14:16, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
It's impossible to ignore the grating pronunciation of "Schoen" in the first line of the song as it rhymes with the word that ends the next line: "pain". Clearly deliberate but also somewhat ironic, methinks. The "shane" pronunciation is more akin to more than a few other words of foreign languages that have been strangely pronounced by people who speak the American variety of English, I ponder as I relax upon my chaze lounge.PårWöet (talk) 21:43, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
Spurious claim.
[edit]The article claims that Yiddish and Pennsylvania Dutch are low German dialects contradicting the article on Yiddish and on Pennsylvania Dutch. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.105.228.215 (talk) 00:01, 5 September 2018 (UTC)