Talk:Dare Stones

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This article is in need of an update due to recent research.[edit]

I watched a cable TV show last night (3-26-2017) that revealed new research showing that the first stone discovered is most likely authentic, but that the subsequent ones were all forgeries, carved using a drill press. A detailed close-up photographic examination and modern stone mason's duplications verified the techniques used in the forgeries. Brenau University cooperated in the recent revelations.

@Photojack53: any chance that was a repeat of the show mentioned in the article? Doug Weller talk 19:48, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

New article by Andrew Lawler[edit]

@Carlstak and Crash Underride: I'm pretty busy but you might find this useful for the article. Doug Weller talk 14:24, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This is helpful, thank you. I have improved the article with the new information. asnac (talk) 16:51, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

New article by Arogers867[edit]

I think that they should take a very close look at the stones 2-13 and if they look a lot different from the first one, like they have been carved with modern technology, they should label them as fake.

A Lost Colony Hoax The Chowan River Dare Stone By Brandon Fullam 2021[edit]

This seems to be the latest academic work and disagrees, I think convincingly, with Darby. I'll try to post some quotes later today. Doug Weller talk 12:59, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Darby concluded that it is “more likely than not that George Hammond posed as a retired produce dealer and was an important agent in the Dare Stone [Chowan River Stone] hoax.”4 She also claimed that Haywood Pearce, Jr.'s, and George Hammond's membership in the same national historical society was further evidence that they both must have been complicit in the hoax. They both had to be in on the fraud, Darby explained, because “George Hammond would not have risked being recognized by Pearce at a future meeting of the American Historical Association.”5 That deduction, however, is seriously flawed. There were several hundred members of the AHA, and many of them—aside from Pearce—lived in Atlanta. Three of them, in fact, were actually teaching at Emory with Pearce at that time: Mosc L. Harvey, Ross H. McLean, and Fletcher M. Green. There was also a fourth AHA member."

But his book is so detailed that anyone wanting to use it will have to get a copy of it. I'd advise an ebook - Kindle in the UK, Kindle,Kobo or Nook in the US, as you can search. Doug Weller talk — Preceding undated comment added 15:25, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have rolled back the last two IP edits, which relate to this article, per WP:NOR as they were statements of opinion. asnac (talk) 12:37, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Obviously a Hoax[edit]

The message on the first stone refers to it being placed on a hill four miles East of where it was found at "this river". How does the stone know in advance that it would make it back to it's finding place? 109.43.51.113 (talk) 03:38, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Scholars[edit]

"Champion argues that the validity of the stone cannot be resolved without "a serious archaeological project," entailing an interdisciplinary research using sophisticated forms of analysis. However, scholars are reluctant to jeopardize their professional reputations on the Dare Stones, making such an undertaking difficult to organize."

what? Wouldn't confirming (or debunking the stones) serve to do nothing but help their reputations? Thornfield Hall (talk) 01:56, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]