Talk:Darlington Memorial Fountain/GA1
GA Review[edit]
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Nominator: APK (talk · contribs) 09:40, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: Pbritti (talk · contribs) 17:50, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
Hello! APK, you already know me and my reviews, and I figured I ought to review this fountain that I've passed a few times during my travels through DC. While I'm certain that we can get this to a GA, I noticed a couple minor issues when I did a brief read through last week when searching for possible articles to review. Together, these issues shouldn't really pose an issue. I have another review I'll wrap up the first stage of tonight, so expect some preliminary comments within the next 24 hours. ~ Pbritti (talk) 17:50, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi there. Thanks for another review! APK hi :-) (talk) 05:17, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
Initial comments[edit]
Sorry for the late start. Let's get going with some initial comments! These are surface-level observations, with a couple more specific comments based on sourcing issues. The biggest takeaway for now: Darlington should get his own article using the biography in this article and the biography section should thus be cut down. ~ Pbritti (talk) 02:28, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Lead[edit]
- Please note that the memorial is dedicated to Joseph James Darlington in the lead paragraph.
- The biography of Darlington is a bit too detailed in the lead. I suggest cutting
but he became depressed after the death of his second wife
- Note MOS:ENFROM for the parenthetical containing Darlington's birth and death years
- C. Paul Jennewein is overlinked in the lead's third paragraph
- Please note in the lead who specifically owns/maintains the memorial today, as
transferred ownership to the local government
does not indicate if this is the D.C. city government, some subordinate local government, or a specific D.C. agency
Biography[edit]
- Darlington definitely deserves his own article. You could just copy-and-paste the biography from this article and call that a decent Start- or C-class article. The reliance on a single (albeit massive) source in this article is a superficial issue, as I've found a couple additional sources that could further establish his notability: Herndon Historical Society, Darlington School
- Adding on that, I'm a bit surprised the Darlington School, which was named in Darlington's honor, isn't mentioned in this biography
Images[edit]
- All images have either had any claim to copyright waived or are now in the public domain due to age, so no copyvio concerns
- All images are of a superior quality and contribute substantially to the article by illustrating elements of the subject
- I would like to see something like "Joseph James Darlington (1849 – 1920), to whom the memorial is dedicated, was a successful legal scholar" in the caption of the image of him
- Darlington's image might be reasonably moved to the biography section
- An indication of the orientation of the view in the wide photo of the memorial should be added to the caption
Memorial[edit]
Some members of the public and Darlington's former Baptist friends were appalled at the public display of nudity.
The citation for this statement is DC Preservation League 2018. However, the mortified Baptists are not referenced in this source. They do appear in Kelly 2016, however they are not described as "Darlington's former Baptist friends". Instead, John Ball is described as a Baptist pastor but no relationship with Darlington is established. Briggs is only described as one of Darlington's former pastors, but not as a friend. The paragraph reads: "The Rev. John E. Briggs, pastor of Fifth Baptist Church, where Darlington worshiped, denied that he had termed the statue a 'blasphemy' but said that Darlington wouldn't have liked it."Darlington's pastor, John E. Briggs, said if he was still alive, Darlington would not approve of the sculpture
leaves "he" a bit vague; I'd prefer you just cut "said if he was still alive".