Talk:Dave Pegg

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Peggy[edit]

Just an addition, Peggy's first band when he was aged 15/16 was Dave and the Emeralds. I know, because I helped lug their gear into a gig at the BCT social club in Acocks Green, and Peggt cost me a whole packet of Park Drive! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.24.236.196 (talk) 11:35, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Would be nice to add, provided that per WP:V and WP:BLP (not to mention WP:NOR) a reliable source can be given. Personal knowledge is not considered reliable source. --Redrose64 (talk) 12:24, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Label(s)[edit]

Template:Infobox musical artist just says: "The record label or labels to which the act has been signed." To me that would seem to include all the Fairport stuff on Island. Is there a different consensus recorded somewhere for solo acts who used to be in bands? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:59, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the act. For this article, the act is Dave Pegg, and not Fairport Convention. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:03, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That makes sense. But the template advice could be clearer. This implies that Pegg was never signed to Island. Surely that would only be correct if the Island contract was with the band as an entity? Was that in fact the case? I would imagine this varies, depending on the company and the manager/ agent. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:30, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Fairport Convention recording contract will have been between Island Records and the band as a whole, they will not have been obliged to sign a new contract whenever the lineup changed. Which for FC was remarkably often. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 07:40, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I guess there's a reliable source for that somewhere? But I'm still wondering if some cases might differ or if, for some reason, that has always been true for all bands. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:45, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well, consider this: if a lineup change requires a new contract, then it becomes easy to unilaterally terminate an existing contract, merely by hiring or firing a member. After Rising for the Moon, FC's contract with Island required them to provide one more album; so if the contract was between individuals and Island, they could have got themselves out of that obligation by saying "Sandy Denny, Jerry Donahue and Trevor Lucas have all left, so the rest of us aren't bound by their contract any more". However, it is known that Gottle O'Geer (which was intended as a Dave Swarbrick solo project) was put out under the Fairport band name in order to fulfil the outstanding contract. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 09:00, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that all makes perfect sense, I'm sure. Thanks Redrose, for your detailed reply. I'm not really disputing any of that. I know Fairport had quite a few contractual issues with Island over the years. I'm just curious about the contractual arrangement of bands in general. Am I right in thinking that Joe Boyd's involvement with the band ended with Full House in 1970? I don't see mention of any other manager at the Fairport Convention article. Many thanks for your time. Martinevans123 (talk)

Their manager was Phillip Stirling-Wall by the time that Rosie was put out - prior to becoming manager, he had contributed the spoken introduction to "Babbacombe" Lee, and (I think) David Denny (brother of Sandy) became manager circa 1974/75. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 09:41, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Were they the ones who signed the record label contracts? Would those names be useful detail for the article? And would it be clearer if the template advice explicitly said something like: "Do not include the labels to which a band was signed when the artist was a member of that band." Martinevans123 (talk) 09:46, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mandolin and vocals[edit]

I think that mandolin and vocals should be added to a the instruments section, also we need a list of instruments he plays as the multi instrumentalist label needs expanding on, for instance as well as bass, mandolin and vocals, he has also been credited with playing guitar, violin, double bass, banjo, ukulele, and bouzouki on albums by the Fairport Convention and other artists, citations can be seen on AllMusic and Discogs. 80s Sam (talk) 19:34, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Wikipedia content is determined by reliable sources, policies, and guidelines, not what one editor thinks. Virtually none of this is discussed in the article, much less sourced. And we don't add a long list of instruments in the infobox, even if sourced. That belongs in the main part of the article. Sundayclose (talk) 19:49, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am proposing that the long list is added into the article and just mandolin and vocals is added to the infobox. 80s Sam (talk) 07:09, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]