Talk:Dave Stamper

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Former good articleDave Stamper was one of the Media and drama good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
April 1, 2011Good article nomineeListed
November 29, 2020Good article reassessmentDelisted
Current status: Delisted good article

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Dave Stamper/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: GRAPPLE X 12:57, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria


Do forgive me, but I'll be conducting this review with Michigan J. Frog's voice stuck in my head. :/

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose quality:
    B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
    MOS compliance is ok, but could be better. I'd drop the heading level on sections 2-5, grouping them all under "Career" or the like. However, the lead is much too short (given the length of the article, I'd say one paragraph of good size should do it. Two sentences is too little, though). Also, when you quote June Moon, you have "Dave Stamper says its sure fire." Should this be "it's sure fire"? I don't have a copy of the play so I don't know if this is a mistake in the original text (which case you should note it with [sic]) or a typo here.
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. References to sources:
    B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
    C. No original research:
    Citations are fine, used appropriately, and everything mentioned is backed up nicely.
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:
    B. Focused:
    Scope is broad without going places it shouldn't.
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:
    Article is neutral and unbiased.
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
    Article
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
    B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
    Images are fine. Both of them used are in the public domain so that's no issue.
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:
    I'm probably going to pass this article, however, before this can happen I would like the first point to be addressed. Just expand the lead to summarise the article's content a bit more - one sentence for every heading is about right. When doing so, though, bear in mind that sections 2-5 should be grouped under one heading, not left as they are. When this is done, let me know, and until then, I'll keep the article on hold.|I'm probably going to pass this article, however, before this can happen I would like the first point to be addressed. Just expand the lead to summarise the article's content a bit more - one sentence for every heading is about right. When doing so, though, bear in mind that sections 2-5 should be grouped under one heading, not left as they are. When this is done, let me know, and until then, I'll keep the article on hold.
    I'm satisfied with the changes made, and will pass the article.|}}
Thanks for taking the time to review. I've done the body edits you've suggested, and will work on the lead in the next day or two. The June Moon problem was due to a OCR error. K8 fan (talk) 18:41, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Added information to the lead. Would love to see a better writer polish the style a bit.K8 fan (talk) 19:09, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Done and done. GRAPPLE X 19:26, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks again for reviewing the article. Hopefully the Good Article status will attract the attention of a better writer than myself to tweak the prose a bit. As you can see from the history, I've added bits and pieces over a fairly long period of time, haven't done much to polish it and don't have the distance from the content to do a good job.K8 fan (talk) 19:35, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think people are more inclined to pitch in when they feel they're adding to something proven rather than needing to overhaul something rough, so you've laid a good foundation for future editors to improve this further. GRAPPLE X 19:37, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA Reassessment[edit]

This discussion is transcluded from Talk:Dave Stamper/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.
  • My reason for bring this up to for review is mainly Good Article Criterion 2: "Is it factually accurate and verifiable?" There are numerous biographical claims lacking inline citations (or apparent presence in any listed sources), and most of the citations are in fact primary sources that merely indicate existence of a work, but do not necessarily support the claims in the accompanying text (the fact that his works appear in Ziegfeld Follies of 1913 per IBDB does not verify he "began writing songs" in 1912. The text reads largely as written by someone with intimate yet incompletely documented knowledge of the subject, crafting an original narrative by connecting primary sources, and statements like "thus he would have not been able to..." read like improper synthesis. I've added a few references to aid in verification, but further sources and scrutiny is needed. In my view, this does not meet Good Article Criteria now, nor did it in 2011. --Animalparty! (talk) 00:58, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi Animalparty!, this has been open for awhile now, would you like to close it? CMD (talk) 16:25, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    @Animalparty: I feel this has been abandoned. If there is no response in the next few days I will close it as such. Aircorn (talk) 01:56, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Was just going to close this as abandoned, but seeing as there are verification issues I will close it as delist. Aircorn (talk) 09:03, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]