Talk:Day of the Tiles
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Event is important
[edit]This event has been cited by well known historians as a key event and an inactive link was present from the French Revolution article. It is important that users are aware of this event as a precursor to the French Revolution over a year later. It is certainly not gibberish or nonsense as suggested by its candidacy for speedy deletion. If you believe that my explanation is not sufficiently clear then please leave me a message and I will attempt to rectify the problem. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tassarov (talk • contribs) .
- Please provide references for this article or it will likely end up being deleted. All articles on Wikipedia must be verifiable. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 22:33, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
- I think some people have been a bit precipitate in branding this as nonsense. The day did occur, it was a notable event in Grenoble history. I think it should be regarded as a stub, and I think we should see if we can improve it. I will try and do some work on over the next few days. Phaedrus86 22:54, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Please can someone find an exact date for this event. I have tried and come up with several different options. The two most prevalent being on the 7th of June (posted) and the 10th. If someone has a precise date please post it here if you have the correct date or if you have evidence that the date posted is indeed the correct one. Thanks.Tassarov
- All the references I can find say 7 June. I can't find any that give any other date, apart from Alexandre Debelle's painting - but he was a painter and produced it a century later, so I discount that.
- Sources I found:
- http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journ%C3%A9e_des_Tuiles - French Wikipedia
- http://www.herodote.net/17880607.htm - Herodote.net seems reliable
- http://www.ac-grenoble.fr/stendhal/Tuiles.htm -
- http://www.isere-tourisme.com/Commun/docs/2/Doc2459.pdf?PHPSESSID=91b192d4566bf54a01f3a5cb25dbf874 (large PDF)
- http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/Grenoble- Catholic Enclyclopedia of 1911
- http://www.safarix.com/0131930370/ch02lev1sec3 - recent history book
- I can't find any sources from the period that mention the date at all. Carlyle, Taine and Goudemetz books from http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page skip through 1788 without a mention. Johnston (a bit late, published 1910, so not contemporary) mentions the event but not the date.
Phaedrus86 22:40, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
It is the 7th (Schama's Citizens and Doyle's Oxford history both go into some detail on the event). I also lend my support to the retaining of this article. Actually, I'm incredulous that people seriously think this is "nonsense". I will add these references to the article and help to expand it soon. Foraminifera 18:15, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
the link in the word "Lamoignon" leads to the page of a wrong person
[edit]Hi all. I think there is an error: in the phrase “Long live our parliament! May God save the king and may the devil take Brienne and Lamoignon!” Here, the link in the word "Lamoignon" leads to the page of a person named "Chrétien Guillaume de Lamoignon de Malzerbes". In fact, according to the logic of things, as well as in the French version of the page, the link by the surname “Lamoignon” leads to the person Chrétien François de Lamoignon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chr%C3%A9tien_Fran%C3%A7ois_de_Lamoignon_de_Basville It was he, and not de Malzerbe, who initiated the reforms of the abolition and reorganization of the French parliaments. 46.19.86.162 (talk) 03:30, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
Doubting our sources
[edit]This article doubts its own sources at various points. This kind of editorializing can approach original research. If we really doubt our sources, then we need to find other sources, not editorialize. Daask (talk) 13:58, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
Why I replaced "parliament" and "parliamentarians" with "parlement" and "parlementaires"
[edit]Parliaments are legislative bodies; they enact laws. The parlements of the ancien régime were primarily judicial; they were not the same as parliaments. Their function in years approaching the French Revolution was different than the English parliament that ousted Charles I, even though both bodies disputed with their monarchs over taxes. Using "parliamentarians" will have people trying to imagine French "Roundheads." But things weren't that simple. That's why I think we should use the French word to describe this French phenomenon. Oona Wikiwalker (talk) 07:34, 26 August 2024 (UTC)