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A fact from Dear England appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 17 September 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Dear England tells the story of how manager Gareth Southgate helped change notions of masculinity for the men's national football team?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2023/September. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Dear England.

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 14:08, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Dear England tells the story of how manager Gareth Southgate helped change notions of masculinity for the national men's football team? Source: BBC News
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- Comment: Template:Did you know nominations/Paul Christiano (researcher)

Created by Cielquiparle (talk). Self-nominated at 09:26, 1 July 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Dear England; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

(Barely) meets eligibility requirements. Interesting hook and well-written and well-cited article. QPQ not done. Article does not mention how Southgate changed notions of masculinity, as the hook argues and the cited source mentions. Made a minor typographic update to the hook. Longhornsg (talk) 22:33, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Cielquiparle, status update? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 22:35, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Cielquiparle: Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:16, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The concerns in the review were addressed a while ago but I'm trying to head off an edit war on this article right now and am also considering expanding it further to connect to the England women (who actually did "bring football home" and do make an appearance in the play), in line with the ongoing DYK football theme. But should have an update this coming weekend. Cielquiparle (talk) 14:37, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Longhornsg: Could you please take another look at this article? It has expanded quite a bit; the potential edit war issue seems to have been resolved; it was recently announced that the play will transfer to the West End; and the England women have advanced to the World Cup Final (and despite my earlier comment, I think it's not really worth forcing a mention of the Women's Euro 2022 victory into this article, as it is a fleeting moment within the play). Thanks in advance. Cielquiparle (talk) 02:37, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Took another look. Good to go. Longhornsg (talk) 17:50, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Cielquiparle and Longhornsg: Any comments about the Earwig score? Bruxton (talk) 21:06, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Bruxton: The article was first created on 24 June. I'm pretty sure Woolwich Polytechnic School for Boys lifted some copy off the Wikipedia article, not the other way around. (The other matches are generally for direct quotes, correctly attributed, from reviews.) Cielquiparle (talk) 11:33, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]