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A fact from Decome appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 4 May 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that NTT Docomo was the first cell phone service to utilize deco mail (emoji pictured)?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2022/May. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Decome.

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Kingsif (talk) 10:36, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

NTT Docomo character

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~~... that decome was first created by NTT Docomo?~~ Source: "Deco Mail is a brand created by Japanese telco operator DoCoMo." (article)
- ALT1: ... that women are more than twice as likely as men to use decome emojis?
  - ALT1a: ... that women are more than twice as likely as men to use deco mail emojis?
- ALT2: ... that the use of deco mail emojis declined with the advent of social media and messaging apps?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Eyes That Kiss in the Corners

Created by Lullabying (talk). Self-nominated at 06:05, 10 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Comment I've suggested some ALTs above, just for some flair :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 03:51, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Needs a better hook --evrik ^(talk) 17:57, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can you use any of the ALTs suggested by Theleekycauldron? lullabying (talk) 19:17, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I added another, if that helps—although I'm concerned about the repeated use of LinkedIn pulse? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 19:41, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Lullabying: are there any sources that describe how decome were eclipsed by emojis in texting? That would be the root of a good hook. --evrik ^(talk) 21:43, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ALT3: ... that deco mail was the first messaging to use emojis, but it was eclipsed with the advent of social media and messaging apps?

Review of new hook needed. --evrik ^(talk) 01:44, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think ALT3 is fine but I would have to look for evidence on whether that is true. lullabying (talk) 03:12, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Lullabying: If you can't substantiate Alt3 with a source, do you have I can approve? --evrik ^(talk) 20:02, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can we go with the fact that NTT Docomo was the first Japanese cell phone service to use that feature? i.e.

ALT4: ... that NTT Docomo was the first cell phone service to utilize deco mail? "NTT DOCOMO". 2011-07-22.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Lullabying (talk • contribs) 02:15, April 7, 2022 (UTC)

I'll approve Alt4. ~~Alt3 wold be okay if it was cited.~~ --evrik ^(talk) 14:16, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The original ALT I listed links the source. lullabying (talk) 19:51, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Lullabying and Evrik: I was going to promote this, but I have some concerns with the proposed hooks. For ALT 3, the hook implies that Decome's popularity declined when social media and messaging apps became popular, but the article says, "Decome was popular in 2012, when social media and messaging apps became popular...". This seems contradictory, and the source is paywalled so I cannot check it. Is there alternative wording that can be used? For ALT4, I could not verify the information in the source used in the article; while the source says that decome was created by NTT Docomo, it doesn't say that they were the first to use it. What sentence(s) from the source verify ALT4's information? Z1720 (talk) 14:21, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I clarified the sentence in the article for ALT3. lullabying (talk) 21:22, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'll approve Alt4. --evrik ^(talk) 03:46, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Z1720 Any new thoughts on ALT4? SL93 (talk) 23:50, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I looked at the source used to verify this information in the article again ([1], the same source provided above) and I still cannot verify that Ntt Docomo was the first cell phone service to use deco mail. Can Lullabying or evrik provide the quote from a source that verifies this information? Thanks. (I haven't looked at the other ALTs because they were not approved by evrik, so they might be inclined to approve other ones.) Z1720 (talk) 00:01, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Z1720: found one, "JAPANESE CONSUMERS AS TECHNOLOGY INNOVATORS" (PDF). Deco-mail is an abbreviation of "decoration mail" and was first introduced by NTT DoCoMo. --evrik ^(talk) 00:11, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I added the ref to the article, and I'll approve it Z1720 (talk) 00:22, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

evrik added an image to this nom. I assessed it and approve it for use. Z1720 (talk) 21:42, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]