Talk:Democratic Alliance for the Betterment and Progress of Hong Kong

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Disputed[edit]

I removed the following sentence from the first paragraph in the controversy section.

"However, it is reported that some of the participants do not know they are going to join the rallies until they are sent to the venue."

Someone should provide a link to prove this claim before it is put back in the article. --205.250.250.154 21:45, 2 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You may want to look into the archives of local newspapers for reports related to either of the July 1 protests, when the FTU and other pro-Beijing organisations held activities nearby. There was similar coverage on a campaign rally for the DAB candidates for the 2004 LegCo election. — Instantnood 19:53, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Please provide links, we need proof, I would rather not simply take your word for it. This sounds very POV. --154.20.68.142 08:13, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
It's nothing POV here. They're facts that most familiar with Hong Kong politics can tell. You can verify it from the archive of many local newspapers. — Instantnood 12:50, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I follow the politics there every day, and I have two friends who are journalists for the South China Morning Post. The allegations you are making are very POV. It is YOUR responsibility to prove their factual accuracy, so if you cannot provide proper news article links here or in the article then the allegation should be removed. --205.250.250.154 05:06, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
It's a paid service to look into the archives of many local newspapers, including the SCMP, as well as the Apple Daily and Ming Pao, which are among the best-selling Chinese-language daily papers here. That's the reason why I've suggested you to go to any of the archives, if you've an account. — Instantnood 16:22, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Provide a day and page number for an article that says so. That's what a citation is. It doesn't have to be an internet link and it doesn't have to be free, but someone should be able to go look it up exactly where you tell them to. SchmuckyTheCat 17:41, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
When time allows. For the time being try look into the news after an assembly in support of the anti-subversion legislation on December 20 2002, after the July 1 2003 rally, when the DAB and its allies held a fair at the football pitches at Victoria Park, the election campaign rally on September 5 2004 for the LegCo election, or the "Anti-Politician Assembly" at Chater Garden on January 1 2005. — Instantnood 13:57, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I'm from HK too, but I think this particular sentence is a bit too POV, and is not necessary to describe the DAB. Did people do the same for the DP article? In any event, it is wholly unnecessary and brings objectivity into disrepute.jsw663jsw663 15:57, 18 January 2006 (GMT)

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Centre-right[edit]

How is an organization that is considered to be pro-Beijing (i.e. in favor of the communist government, many policies are not friendly for business but support nearly all policies of the HKSAR government) labeled as a Centre-right political party.?????Marxistfounder (talk) 05:44, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed this is an important point. On Jasper Tsang's page it links to this page saying the party was founded by other leftists. Recommend that this label be removed or questioned. 2001:F40:943:874:5891:AE84:D812:C027 (talk) 03:01, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I think user Jsw663 believes it is author Beatty who seems to express the view that that political party is funded by the Communist Party of China. I have added some more sources to keep it in the history section. It really isn't a view expressed by the author. It is quite a unanimous view found in many books actually. If there are any problems, please let me know. I can add more sources. Benjwong (talk) 03:33, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Economy[edit]

So whats this parties econimic position?--J intela (talk) 18:16, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

They're unabashed commies. You know, State owns all the means of production, kids of Party leaders go to the best schools, etc.Ndriley97 (talk) 00:30, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • What is the point of listing ONLY elected seats, instead of total seats of district council of HK, as the meeting of district council is held NOT ONLY elected seats, but ALSO Ex Officio Member (Rural Committee Chairmen). Listing ONLY elected seats is very misleading to the readers. UU (talk) 12:53, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Young DAB[edit]

Maybe we should have a section on the Young DAB. Cossaxx (talk) 17:52, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Political postion[edit]

In what way is the DAB center-right? The source for "center-right" position seems unreliable as it only describes the position as a metaphor and it doesn't mention any center right characteristics. "Center right" usually means pro-buisness, in which most of the party is definitely not (except those from the Hong Kong Progressive Alliance).

In the ideology section of the wiki, it mentions that DAB caters to the middle class by supporting increased spending: "The DAB's support of social welfare improvements, including greater spending on education, housing, and employee retraining, has given it strong grassroots support."

The section also calls DAB a big tent party, and there are many big tent parties across the world so describing DAB as big tent is not invalid.

Besides that, they also support the CCP, which believes that the state owns all the means of production. Guotaian (talk) 15:42, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]