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NPOV

so the walloons are a Minority group? I dare whoever wrote that to find any official source stating that they are "[a] group that is subnormal with respect to a dominant group in terms of social status, education, employment, wealth and political power."--Piccolo Modificatore Laborioso (talk) 05:33, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Minority is plainly being used in the general sense of less than half. I don't know where you got that quote from, but it is not relevant here. There is no POV issue, you are just being paranoid and unnecessarily aggressive.. Honbicot (talk) 20:50, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Sources

Quite funny to rely on a source that does speak about "Tensions between the Dutch-speaking Flemings of the north and the French-speaking Walloons", but that did not find out that there are not only "regions" as a result of this, but also fully official, recognised and heavily funded 'communities'. I can't say this represqentation of actual belgian society and its institutions appears reliable, nor accurate to me. No wonder that they failed to notice that the nearly 10% of the belgian living in the Brussels region do indeed belong to either the Flemish community, either the French, and that they do have either french, or Dutch as their main language for public life. See in History of belgium for a more detailled discussion on the languages. 

    Rudi Dieric,   31 July 2004,  Etterbeek-Brussels

Ethnic groups

Question: Can Flemings and Walloons be considered different ethnic groups? --Ganchelkas 13:09, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Ethnic? Not really. Merely cultural and political. There are several prominent Walloon politicians with Flemish names (André Cools, Laurette Onkelinx, Jean-Claude Van Cauwenberghe,...), who are descendants of Flemish migrant workers, and thus of Flemish ethnicity but French culture. On the other hand, there are a lot of Flemings with French-sounding names.... LHOON 13:38, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Then why does this article say they are? --Ganchelkas 15:30, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Better comment it out in fact awaiting some ground discussion LHOON 18:28, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
I did a copy edit of the article, and among other thing, I put the section back in. After reading the Ethnic Group page, I felt that the term could apply, although this decision is based upon my limited knowledge of the terms "Flemish" and "Walloon" (I am, after all, not Belgian). In any case, if the phrase "Ethnic Group" is inappropriate, simply replace the term with a better one, as the data is pertinent to the article. - Runch 17:49, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
As a Belgian, I can say that they are not different ethnic groups, since the 'cultures' are quite similar. Of course, there are some differences (like between a Texan and a New Yorker), but mostly the differences only come from the difference in language. You can't deny that Flanders is more closely related to THe Netherlands, and Wallonia to France, but they blend over in each other, like a culture continuum. The terms Flemmish and Walloon only apply to where they live and what language they speak. I would feel a more appropriate term would be 'language groups', since to me, language cannot be solely used to define an ethnic group. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:1811:2C06:3800:1D29:DD64:B595:7C90 (talk) 11:13, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Abuse of CIA Factbook

Could you please NOT use the CIA factbook data? Those are worthless. Please check http://www.statbel.fgov.be/ instead

They are not worthless, they are a standard source used all over the world. They are not 100% accurate, no source is, but if you think anything is incorrect, the onus is on you to explain why. Honbicot (talk) 20:54, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

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"while Arabic is also largely spoken"

Of course, thats what Arabs do. Move to Belgium, speak largely there.--2001:A62:1959:5401:7869:8EA0:91DC:F21D (talk) 20:54, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

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