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Attribution of Green Arrow illustration incorrect
[edit]This image is not from Green Lantern/Green Arrow #85, and is clearly not by Neal Adams, even though it may have been attributed that way in the source, (DC Comics Guide to Writing Comics).
It looks like it may be by Dick Dillin, perhaps with Frank Giacoia providing the inks. It may be from an issue of Justice League of America from shortly after the Denny O'Neil/Neal Adams run on GL/GA, probably a flashback to the story from issues #85 and #86. —The preceding comment was added by kevrhon (talk) 20:29, 6 May 2007 (UTC).
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Born
[edit]Various websites give his birthdate as May 13, May 7 (formerly here) and May 3. The 3rd seems more widely (and accurately) reported, so I'm changing it unless someone knows better! ntnon (talk) 03:09, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
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[edit]This article needs the B-Class checklist filled in to remain a B-Class article for the Comics WikiProject. If the checklist is not filled in by 7th August this article will be re-assessed as C-Class. The checklist should be filled out referencing the guidance given at Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment/B-Class criteria. For further details please contact the Comics WikiProject. Comics-awb (talk) 16:19, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Done - there is a big header asking for for more references and the referencing is thin so I've bumped it down to a C for now. Feel free to drop me a note when you think this has been addressed and I'll coem back and pass it or check through and flag any statements that I think need sources (there are too many to flag at the moment without making the article look a mess). (Emperor (talk) 19:04, 30 September 2009 (UTC))
Speedyjunk.jpg
[edit]Someone posted at File talk:Speedyjunk.png saying that the image (used in the Charlton and DC Comics section of the article) is not by Neal Adams as it says in the caption. Posting this here so that someone more knowledgeable can take a look and double-check the image description. Thanks, Jafeluv (talk) 07:28, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
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Today's edits
[edit]Two edits were made today by 166.84.1.1, a now-blocked sock of User:Mrbrklyn / User:Panix comics.--Tenebrae (talk) 20:55, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
Update for Personal Life
[edit]Re: "O'Neil is married to Marifran O'Neil."
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/wordballoon/2018/01/24/dennis-oneil--out-from-batmans-shadow-with-his-autobiographic-novel lists his second wife (the former Marifran McFarland) died shortly before the interview. I believe this is her obituary: https://obittree.com/obituary/us/new-york/nyack/hannemann-funeral-home-inc/marifran-oneil/3295386/ (I use nyacknewsandviews.com/2016/03/jfuscaldo_dennyoneil/ to confirm they lived in Nyack.) Darci (talk) 05:19, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
- This blog-radio interview is nearly 2 1/2 hours long; you'd need to give a timestamp for your claim, since the WP:BURDEN is on each editor who wants to add content, and it's unreasonable to expect another person to go through an audio that long to verify your claim. --Tenebrae (talk) 21:48, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
Film and television appearances
[edit]How about a new section for appearances in documentaries like on the Stan Lee Page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Qstor (talk • contribs) 17:35, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
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Happy to be challenged on any of my review comments. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 01:00, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
Sources
- What makes Talent Pool a reliable source? It really doesn't look like one.
- My reading of Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_398#Grand_Comics_Database is that Grand Comics Database is not considered a reliable source.
- What makes manwithoutfear.com a reliable source?
- "There is consensus that the New York Post is generally unreliable for factual reporting" (WP:NYPOST)
- What makes walruscomix.com a reliable source?
- What makes bailsprojects.com (Who's Who of American Comic Books 1928–1999) a reliable source?
- What makes hahnlibrary.net a reliable source?
Copyvio Check
- The article was created on July 4, 2004. Looking at the archived copy of the FortuneCity page, https://web.archive.org/web/20040620031401/http://www.fortunecity.com:80/tatooine/niven/142/talentpo/tp19.html from June 20, 2004, there seems to be an unacceptable level of plagiarism - see Earwig's Copyvio detector.
Examples of exact phrases re-used:
- "he would accompany his father or his grandfather to the store for some light groceries and an occasional comic book"
- "he suggested that O'Neil take the Marvel writer's test, which involved adding dialogue to a wordless four-page excerpt of a Fantastic Four comic"
- "left-wing creation that effectively took over Green Lantern's book to use him as a foil and straw"
- "Following the lead set by Bob Haney and Neal Adams in a Brave and the Bold story that visually redefined Green Arrow into the version that appeared in comics between 1969 and 1986, O'Neil"
- "took away her powers, exiled her from the Amazon community, and set her off, uncostumed, into international intrigues with her blind mentor,"
- " alienated readers. In Justice League, he had more success, introducing into that title the first socially and politically themed stories, setting the stage for later work on Green Lantern/Green Arrow."
Example of slightly amended wording:
- Wikipedia: "The available jobs writing for Marvel petered out fairly quickly, and O'Neil took a job with Charlton Comics under the pseudonym of Sergius O'Shaugnessy. There he received regular work for a year and a half from Charlton's editor Dick Giordano."; Talentpool: "The available jobs writing for Marvel petered out fairly quickly, and O'Neil, wishing to continue as a writer, took a job with Charlton Comics under the grotesque pseudonym of Sergius O’Shaugnessy. There he received regular work for a year and a half from Charlton's editor, the now-esteemed Dick Giordano."
FlairTale I'm going to pause the review to give you a chance to repond to what looks like a big copyvio problem. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 01:15, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
Quick fail
FlairTale After further consideration, I'm going to quick fail this. Wikipedia:Good_article_criteria gives five reasons why an article can be failed without further review (known as a quick fail):
- It is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria
- It contains copyright violations
The second of the GA criteria is that "A Good Article is... verifiable with no original research:...
d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism."
Given the examples highlighted above, I believe the article is a long way from meeting the requirement about containing no no copyright violations or plagiarism. I'm happy to discuss this further on the article's talk page. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 13:54, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
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