Talk:Destruction of Warsaw

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B-class review[edit]

This article is currently at start/C class, but could be improved to B-class if it had more (inline) citations. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 21:57, 24 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

POV[edit]

The claim that Nazi Germany planned to ‘raze’ Warsaw even before the start of the uprising is not backed up by any source. This article seems to confuse plans like the Pabst Plan with the destruction caused by the uprising and subsequent German actions. This point of view is problematic. — 37 ^(talk) 23:45, 12 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It does not matter in this case that the article combines references to the Pabst Plan and then details the destruction of the city by German demolition units shortly after the Warsaw Uprising. The key theme of the article here is that the German authorities sought for a long time to destroy the city in order to remove the center of Polish nationally identity. The destruction of the city was always based on this key issue. Thus the tag simply has no relevance in this case, Germans wanted to erase the city one way or another — sooner or later. --E-960 (talk) 11:47, 30 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Phony quote[edit]

There is no proof that Adolf Hitler ever said that:"Warsaw has to be pacified, that is, razed to the ground." Which is why no reliable source is given in the article, just some book that doesn't give a source neither. --105.0.3.240 (talk) 18:29, 21 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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August 2020 edits[edit]

Preserving here by providing this link; my rationale was: "1939, 1940 events etc seem off-topic", especially in a section that is called "Warsaw Uprising's aftermath". --K.e.coffman (talk) 05:04, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Does this article need to exist?[edit]

The vast bulk of the article rests on a few non-academic sources: touristy sites, an "FAQ" which does not itself cite any sources, etc. Also see my edit notes. Are there any reliable, scholarly sources that testify to a planned, deliberate and pre-meditated German destruction of the City of Warsaw, which is what this article purports to be describing? I agree with the comment above from 2015 that this article seems to be conflating to unrelated things to push a Polish nationalist POV. If this article's continued existence can be justified, it'd need a comprehensive overhaul, which I have neither the time nor the expertise (nor the inclination) to perform. Ya hemos pasao (talk) 05:07, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There are plenty of sources about this, frankly this is the first time I'm hearing any insinuation it wasn't real. A lot of lesser-known subjects that deal with Eastern European (and generally non-English) history will be poorly-written due to the lack of general attention to them, but that doesn't mean that it didn't happen. I am actually surprised that this article is so short Rousillon (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 12:29, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]