Talk:Dinah Sheridan

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Birth name[edit]

Her birth name is Dinah Nadyejda Mec, not Dinah Nadyejda Ginsburg, according to both BFI Screenonline www.screenonline.org.uk/people/id/450827/index.html and her official website www.dinahsheridan.co.uk/biography.html genesee.gbh (talk) 18:57, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is also the birth name reported in her BBC obituary ([1]) - the name was pronounced "mess" which she changed so as not to give newspaper critics any ammunition. However search sites don't find a birth entry for 1920-1921 for Dinah Nadyejda Mec, and do for Dinah Nadyejda Ginsburg, which is the name reported on the IMDB. -- Arwel Parry (talk) 18:20, 25 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The data on IMDb is based on the birth index. Sheridan's obits in The Times and The Guardian are reporting Ginsburg as her birth name also. Crisso (talk) 20:05, 26 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

But this artice in The Guardian says it's Mec, as does the Telegraph. I would believe BFI - the newspapers may have gotten the wrong name from Wikipedia! Certainly IMDb is not reliable, as it is a crowsourced resource. Plus, the book that was cited in the article to "prove" that the name was Ginsburg appears to be a sham reference. I'm leaning toward "Mec", especially as Sheridan was quoted expaining the name change; but I don't think we can be certain yet. Keep digging! -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:33, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't the birth index definitive? Go to ancestry.com and search for the Ginsburg name. You'll get a match. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 20:04, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See this. I agree that the birth index is at least persuasive. I am still troubled by the various important references to Mec, though. If you know how to cite the birth correctly, please go ahead. It was previously cited incorrectly in the article. -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:06, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

HOWEVER: her birth name is registered as Dinah N[adyejda]. Ginsburg at the GRO (General Registry Office) of Births in England and Wales (see http://www.findmypast.co.uk), which is official, and far more reliable than any of the sources above. Quis separabit? 19:12, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
PS: this is the extract of her birth registration:
Birth record transcript
Name: GINSBURG, Dinah N
Registration district: [?] Barnet
County: Middlesex
Year of registration: 1920
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Mother's maiden name: Everth
Volume no:[?]3A
Page no:[?]902
Quis separabit? 19:26, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dinah Sheridan's father was born James Mec in 1893. Following the death of his father c 1915, James took the name of Ginsburg from his uncle Moshe Ginsburg. When Dinah was born in 1920 she was registered with that name. Historical context is an influencing factor. The pogroms in eastern Europe, revolution in Russia, war with Germany and the rise of anti-semitism were key issues in this period. Dinah was on record regarding the story of her wanting to avoid a name that sounded like 'mess' in English (Mec) so both are true. Caspardietrich (talk) 10:40, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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