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THE new Church?

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Is the article "The" part of the proper name? If not, the article needs to be moved to "New Church." --ElKevbo 15:49, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Yes, "The" is an essential part of this name. Just as there is a Christian Church and various organizations, each being a part of the movement, there is also The New Church and various organizations, each being a part of the movement. Christianity is based on the message of the Gospel, The New Church is based on the understanding of Scripture as revealed in the works published by Emanuel Swedenborg. The concept of "The New Church" is held by all Swedenborgian organizations. If you want I can explain in the article that "The New Church" is both a group of organizations and a foundational concept for all organizations which believe in "The New Church". I can't put this article under the General Church of the New Jerusalem, which is sometimes confused with being "The New Church" itself. I can't do this because the New Church is seen by every New Church organization as something above each organization. Do you suggest that we get rid of the article on Christianity and replace it with the article for the Catholic Church? Yes, this church, The New Church, is known by this very name by many people. The phrase was coined by Emanuel Swedenborg, and has been in continual use every since New Church organizations have been around.

As for references of sources. See the works published by Emanuel Swedenborg including, True Christian Religion, Heaven and Hell, Divine Providence, Divine Love and Wisdom, Married Love, and the New Jerusalem and its Heavenly doctrine. In these works you will find the beliefs that are listed to be representative of those listed in this article. You will also find the development of the concept of "The New Church" which is said to be a religious movement that will be established by the Lord, Jesus Christ. Jasonschnarr 17:33, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why is this in the pro-wrestling section. I must not entirely understand how this works. Can't there be a page for both the wrestling team and the religious movement?

It's in the wrestling section because you opted to create an article in an existing namespace rather than starting a new article. The article on the religious movement is now at The New Church; in future, please create a new article rather than overwriting an existing article. ElKevbo, your 'discussion' has been moved to Talk:The New Church; please continue it there. McPhail 22:14, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]