Talk:Dodecanese campaign

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Pro-German Italian troops (Rhodos).[edit]

In the Egean area there were pro-German Italian tropps, too. On October 17, 1943 the Germans yelded Rhodos to the Italian Social Republic and an Italian regiment (Regiment "Rodi") was garrisoned on the island until May 8, 1945.

It may well be that the Germans did - entirely on paper - return Rhodes to the RSI, but there, as in the whole of Greece, they exercised complete control until they either left (in the mainland) or were evacuated after Germany's capitulation in May 1945. There were several cases were Italians served with the Germans (whether out of commitment to Fascism or because they had no other choice), but they did not engage in any major operation during the Dodecanese campaign (they were neither trusted nor well enough trained or equipped) or during any major anti-partisan operation in the Greek mainland. The Italian formations appear to have been used primarily as local garrisons, AA and auxiliary troops, etc. Cplakidas 13:25, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Full true. However I guess sense of honour (= fidelity to the former ally) played an important role, too. So I think somebody should improve the text which affirms Italians wanted to go home or were willing to fight against the Germans. Well, many Italians wanted to remain alongside the Germans. For example like the Legion "Creta" in Crete or the Legion "Carroccio" at Samos. This is a fact, which nobody can ignore. The Italians (but also the Germans) of Rhodos weren`t involved in battles because the operation "Accolade" (foreseen for Oct. 23, 1943) didn`t take place. Anyway. The fact that a German-Italian garrison (6,356 Germans and 4,737 Italians) -full isolated- resisted at Rhodos until May 1945 recalls the Japanese garrisons on isolated islands in the Pacific area.

Well, you are welcome to add the relevant info in the "Aftermath" section. I'm not quite sure what you mean by "The Italians (but also the Germans) of Rhodos weren`t involved in battles because the operation "Accolade" (foreseen for Oct. 23, 1943) didn`t take place.". The Germans attacked the Italians on Rhodes on orders from the OKW, fearing (rightly) that they might go over to the Allies. I think the article is pretty clear on that... Cplakidas 08:52, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pro-German Italian troops (II)[edit]

I mean the Italians after October 17, 1943; the Italians who supported the RSI. I thank you for the proposal but no, you can add and improve better than me. As far as the naval operations are concerned: on September 18, 1943 the Italian motor gun boat "522" (based at Leros)became mutinous and joined the Germans.

Captain Corelli's Mandolin (film)[edit]

Is it possible that Captain Corelli's Mandolin (film) has some connection with the massacre of the Italian officers on Kos? Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 23:07, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, it depicts the Massacre of the Acqui Division in Cephallonia. Such events were not that uncommon then, unfortunately. Constantine ✍ 23:53, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mario Soldarelli[edit]

Are we sure that general Mario Soldarelli sided with the Germans? Some books I found:

https://books.google.it/books?id=J4mRAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA264&lpg=PA264&dq=generale+mario+soldarelli&source=bl&ots=-wMh210g1P&sig=W1w6qfXWNvMii8li85wolj69-WY&hl=it&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj9gP_X1-DJAhWGaRQKHaVYDWAQ6AEIOTAF#v=onepage&q=generale%20mario%20soldarelli&f=false

https://books.google.it/books?id=Hr8jeMYgZ4QC&pg=PA181&lpg=PA181&dq=generale+mario+soldarelli&source=bl&ots=Kv0LGcxbTW&sig=E7mEMDoXb7GpMiiAXa7fW1-vIRI&hl=it&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj9gP_X1-DJAhWGaRQKHaVYDWAQ6AEIRzAI#v=onepage&q=soldarelli&f=false

And this pdf of the Italian Navy:

http://www.marina.difesa.it/conosciamoci/editoria/bollettino/Documents/2015/70_anniversario.pdf

Describe Soldarelli as well disposed towards the British, the Blackshirts refusing to take orders from him, and him organizing the resistance against the Germans and later taking his men to Turkey and to Allied-controlled territory.--Olonia (talk) 15:33, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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