Talk:Double hyphen
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Japanese Usage
[edit]I have never seen a double hyphen (or graphical equivalent) used to separate the two parts of a name. Japanese usage appears to be a middle dot to separate components of a katakana word, or else a space or no marker at all. The latter two options are frequently seen in peoples' names in kanji. Rhialto
Actually, double hypen appears rather frequently. However, I'm not exactly sure about the rules governing its usage; I know that they are used in cases like between 'bin Lādin' or for the '-' in cases like al-Tikriti, but I haven't seen them used between, say, George Bush. I don't know if it's a replacement for '-' or merely an alternative to ・
--Rmdsc 12:02, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
- Could you provide a reference, or an example of such usage? Also, where you’ve seen it, is it possible that you saw ゠ instead of ・ because of an encoding error? —Frungi 06:58, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
- Example reference http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/search.php?MT=%A5%C0%A5%D6%A5%EB%A5%CF%A5%A4%A5%D5%A5%F3&kind=jn&kwassist=0&mode=2 . I would have appreciated more if it wasn't removed from the article in the first place. —Tokek 02:12, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Generate the character
[edit]- ⸗ --84.56.48.33 (talk) 21:56, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
- Really?
- Actually ⸗ + semicolon generates ⸗, the double oblique hyphen (U+2E17). Note that decimal 11,799 is equal to hexadecimal 2E17.
- Rather, ⹀ + semicolon generates ⹀, the double hyphen (U+2E40). Note that decimal 11,840 is equal to hexadecimal 2E40.
- (Note: on my computer system the latter does not render correctly — presumably due to limited font support.)
- —DIV (1.145.62.167 (talk) 10:47, 7 October 2022 (UTC))
Was this correct usage?
[edit]This 1913 newspaper article uses it in the title, but it doesn't seem to fall under any of the reasons described here. --NE2 04:32, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
- The OCR has "An - to = Ocean Excursionists Arrive at Price by Way of the Midland Trail on Schedule Time" (Eastern Utah Advocate | 1913-07-17 | Page 1). The scan quality is pretty poor, especially on the far left of the page. If you can explain what the title means, there's more chance of categorising the use of the double hyphen.
- —DIV (1.145.62.167 (talk) 10:30, 7 October 2022 (UTC))
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Font support
[edit]Can information be added to the article on font support?
- Perhaps any notable (well-known) fonts that support the character. For example, "The most widely installed font that supports the double hyphen is [insert name of font]."
- Perhaps some statistics of the proportion of widely available fonts that support the character. (I don't know of the practicalities of calculating it, but e.g. a statement like "Only 8% of open source fonts on [insert name of repository?] support the double hyphen.[1]"
- Perhaps some comment like, "Although the double hyphen is rarely supported in fonts designed for the English-speaking world, they are usually supported in fonts designed for [insert name of language(s)]."
—DIV 1.145.62.167 (talk) 10:38, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- How would it be maintained? Who would maintain it? And more of a problem is that such an assertion would need to be supported by citation, otherwise it contravenes a key Wikipedia principle, WP:no original research. Also, Wikipedia is not a manual, so we would have to refer readers to other sources for the "how to". We have to draw a line somewhere.
- FWIW. both glyphs above render fine on my android phone. I don't know what the default font is. Noto? --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 17:57, 7 October 2022 (UTC)