Talk:Drexel 4257
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![]() | A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on August 15, 2012. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Drexel 4257, a manuscript in the New York Public Library, is the largest collection of English song from the first half of the 17th century? |
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Size
[edit]Do we know the size of the book or its pages? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:46, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
GA Review
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- This review is transcluded from Talk:Drexel 4257/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: Pyrotec (talk · contribs) 13:23, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
- I will review. Pyrotec (talk) 13:23, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
Initial comments
[edit]I'm sorry for the delay. I'm now reviewing the article at this very moment, comments will follow. Pyrotec (talk) 15:32, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
I've done a very quick read of the article and it appears to be at or about GA-level, but I've not checked any references or copyright statuses, so I'm going to carry out a full review. This means I'm going to work my way the article starting at the Historical context section and finishing with the WP:Lead and note any "problems" that I find here.
- Historical context -
- General and physical description -
- This section appears to be compliant with WP:WIAGA.
- Dating -
- This section appears to be compliant.
- Provenance -
- This section appears to be compliant.
- Organization -
- There were several links in this section to disambiguation pages. I changed Robert Herrick to Robert Herrick (poet) (four times since he's also in the table, in three places) and John Suckling to John Suckling (poet). I think these are the correct destinations.
...stopping at this point. To be continued. Pyrotec (talk) 17:44, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
- Otherwise, this section was OK.
- Handwriting -
- I added a copy of wikilinks, incipit & secretary hand, but this section is OK.
- Politics -
...stopping at this point. To be continued. Pyrotec (talk) 22:31, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
- This section appears to be compliant.
- Topical or literary content -
- This section appears to be compliant.
- Musical content and style -
- Note: I wikilinked the technical terms: naturals, sharps and flats; I also moved the link from Dissonance, a disambiguation page, to Dissonance.
- However, this section appears to be compliant.
- Significance -
- This section appears to be compliant.
- List of songs & List of songs -
- OK.
- WP:Lead -
....stopping for now. To be continued. Pyrotec (talk) 17:20, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
- Quite a good summary/introduction, so compliant with WP:WIAGA.
- Scope.
- The General and physical description contains a lot of detail and its all verifiable via citations, so I've marked its fully compliant. However, there is a picture of the book in the infobox and its bound with what appears to be leather and/or buckram bindings. There is no comment on this, for instance is it known when and by whom this was done; nor on the size of the folios, instance 10 by 8 (inches) (yes, this is unlikely since the images show a folio that is roughly 2:1 on height:width), foolscap, etc? Pyrotec (talk) 17:53, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
- I deliberately left this out because it would be original research. But I had an idea: If I get a picture of the binding date/binder's statement and upload it to Commons, then I can comment on it, right? -- kosboot (talk) 20:01, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, it would be wrong of me to ask for information that would be OR. You can comment on information that is in the public domain. Pyrotec (talk) 13:59, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
- Ok, I've now added it. - kosboot (talk) 03:07, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, it would be wrong of me to ask for information that would be OR. You can comment on information that is in the public domain. Pyrotec (talk) 13:59, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
- I deliberately left this out because it would be original research. But I had an idea: If I get a picture of the binding date/binder's statement and upload it to Commons, then I can comment on it, right? -- kosboot (talk) 20:01, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
Overall summary
[edit]GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
An informative and well researched article.
- Is it reasonably well written?
- Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
- A. Has an appropriate reference section:
- B. Citation to reliable sources where necessary:
- C. No original research:
- A. Has an appropriate reference section:
- Is it broad in its coverage?
- A. Major aspects:
- B. Focused:
- A. Major aspects:
- Is it neutral?
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- Is it stable?
- No edit wars, etc:
- No edit wars, etc:
- Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
- A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
- B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
- Yes, and all taken by the nominator
- A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
- Overall:
- Pass or Fail:
- Pass or Fail:
I have no hesitation in awarding this article GA-status. I think that it has the makings of a WP:FAC, but I would draw attention to my comments above, i.e. "there is a picture of the book in the infobox and its bound with what appears to be leather and/or buckram bindings. There is no comment on this, for instance is it known when and by whom this was done; nor on the size of the folios, instance 10 by 8 (inches) (yes, this is unlikely since the images show a folio that is roughly 2:1 on height:width), foolscap, etc?". At GA, this is at best a minor uncertainty, and I've discounted it but I strongly suspect that it would be needed at FA. Congratulations on a fine article. Pyrotec (talk) 18:00, 25 March 2013 (UTC)