Talk:Dungeons & Dragons: Adventures in the Forgotten Realms

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Note that User:Sariel Xilo has begun a rewrite at Talk:Dungeons & Dragons: Adventures in the Forgotten Realms/Temp to address copyvio issues. Mindmatrix 16:40, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Mindmatrix: I think I've gotten the rewrite to a good place to be reviewed. I did reuse parts that I had developed originally & sources. If I pulled from other articles (Forgotten Realms, etc), you should be able to follow that via the history attributions. (Note: Parts of that MTG Wiki article copied setting background from articles like Forgotten Realms; see WP:BACKWARDSCOPY). My 2 main lingering threads are two sentences that were copyright violations on MTG Wiki ported over to here. I fixed those sentences (quotation marks, added the missing original sources, etc). Thoughts on leaving these sentences in?
  • Sentence [1] from MTG Wiki: However, this doesn't mean that these characters have a planeswalker's spark in the same sense that the term has in Magic's lore.
  • My attributed, cleaned up version: However, "this doesn't mean that these characters [...] have a Planeswalker Spark" as defined in Magic's lore.[1]
  • Sentence [2] from MTG Wiki: The D&D team worked with the Magic team on every aspect of the set, similar to how the Magic team worked with the D&D team on D&D Mythic Odysseys of Theros and D&D Guildmasters' Guide to Ravnica. The D&D team provided extensive feedback on both the visuals and lore of The Forgotten Realms.
I asked about it over on Wikipedia:Media copyright questions but that was the wrong project. My gut feeling is that these sentences (now updated & with quotes attributed correctly) are no longer a direct copy of the MTG Wiki version since the MTG Wiki version is just stolen text. Sariel Xilo (talk) 23:42, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Sariel Xilo:They're probably OK, but it'd be better to rephrase them. For example, I'd replace
  • Christian Hoffer, for ComicBook.com, reported that the "D&D team worked with the Magic team on every aspect of the set, similar to how the Magic team worked with the D&D team on" the campaign setting books Guildmasters' Guide to Ravnica (2018) and Mythic Odysseys of Theros (2020).
with something to the effect of:
  • Christian Hoffer, for ComicBook.com, reported that there was constant collaboration between the D&D team and the Magic team during development of the set, as there had been for the campaign setting books Guildmasters' Guide to Ravnica (2018) and Mythic Odysseys of Theros (2020).
It's always better to rephrase unless the original quotation adds value to the article that can't be achieved with rephrasing. Mindmatrix 00:39, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done: Implemented suggested rephrase for [2] & rephrased [1]. Sariel Xilo (talk) 02:58, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Reviewing request. @Mindmatrix: In terms of addressing the copyright concerns, I think the draft is ready for review. I might do another sweep to copyedit/tighten up some of the language but that's all stuff that could also be done in mainspace. Thanks again for your help with this article! Sariel Xilo (talk) 04:50, 4 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Implemented Rewrite was moved into place by MER-C. See Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2021 September 2. Sariel Xilo (talk) 17:04, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Magic: The Gathering [@wizards_magic] (May 20, 2021). "(2/4) To get it out of the way: This doesn't mean that these characters (like our one true queen Lolth) have a Planeswalker Spark. You won't be seeing Lolth traveling to Strixhaven to hang out with Witherbloom students any time soon" (Tweet) – via Twitter.
  2. ^ "Magic: The Gathering Announces Dungeons & Dragons Set for 2021". ComicBook.com. September 1, 2020. Retrieved 2021-08-22.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
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