Talk:Dunrobin Castle/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Rosiestep (talk · contribs) 02:10, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

I'll review this one in the next few days. --Rosiestep (talk) 02:10, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Lead

• Citations are discouraged in the lead section.

Has been moved to history

• Needs to be expanded with a bit re: architecture, school, museum, etc.

Done - unless you think more is needed?

• "...most of the present building is the work of Sir Charles Barry, the architect of the Palace of Westminster" - of/of/of/of

Reworded.

• An image caption states "A vista from the house includes the gardens and the sea" - which 'sea' should be addressed in the lead

I've made Dornoch Firth clearer.

History

• "... with unusual vaulted ceilings." - what makes them unusual?

I really don't know, to be honest. Canmore, ref 2, describes them as such in quite a prominent fashion, so I thought it was important.

It is their number which is unusual, i.e. that there was a vault on every floor. Normally only the basement would be a vault, with the upper storeys having suspended timber floors. Have clarified this. Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk) 14:35, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

• "In the 17th century, the keep was extended with the addition of a large house, built around a courtyard to the south-west." - Not a fan of a 1 sentence paragraph; perhaps expand it or merge it?

Done (by Jonathan)

• "the 17th Earl..."; "the 18th earl..." - caps?

I'm not quite sure which it should be - I'll find a similar article and go by that. Different sources seem to do it differently.

It's now upper case in all but one, where lower case is correct.

• "The Gordons quickly recaptured the castle, and captured Alexander and placed his head on a spear on top of the castle tower." - bit clumsy

Reworded.

• "Between 1835 and 1850 Sir Charles Barry remodelled the castle into the Scottish Baronial style for 2nd Duke of Sutherland." - add 'the' before '2nd'

Done.

• "Between 1835 and 1850"; "In 1915"; "Since 1973" - add comma after year per MOS:COMMA

Done.

• Image caption: "Entrance (west) front of Dunrobin Castle" - bit clumsy

Photos redone.

• boarding school - name?

There's tons of info at http://www.dunrobinschool.co.uk/ if you think more would be good. I'll add it as an EL in the meantime.

Architecture

• "There are 189 rooms within the house, making it the largest house in the northern Highlands." - house/house; re-word?
• wl - parterres

Gardens expanded

• "In the entrance hall is a frieze of armorials of the old earls of Sutherland." - bit cluncky

Reworded

• 16th and 17th-century; eighteenth-century - doesn't need the hyphen; also "eighteenth" should be 18th

Fixed.

• header - consider changing it to "Architecture and fittings" as the content addresses books, portraits, chairs, etc.

"Interior" is now subheading.

• gardens - the gardens/grounds appear to be extensive per the image so suggest addressing them in their own section

Done.

Present use

• I'm not sure if this is a necessary section vs. incorporating the various sentences into the other sections.
• museum - Mention in the lead

Done.

• gardens - They're mentioned here, too, but again, I think gardens/grounds/courtyard would be better handled in a separate section, i.e. "Grounds"

Headings are now much more logical.

References

• Reflist|2 would be an alternative to all the white space.

Done

The article needs a bit of work so I'll put this on hold for the usual 7 days. --Rosiestep (talk) 01:24, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

1. Is it reasonably well written?

   A. Prose quality:

   B. MoS compliance:

2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

   A. References to sources:

   B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:

   C. No original research:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. Major aspects:

   B. Focused:

4. Is it neutral?

   Fair representation without bias:

5. Is it stable?

   No edit wars, etc:

6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?

   A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

   B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

Nicely done! --Rosiestep (talk) 02:56, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the review. James^x12345 16:07, 28 January 2014 (UTC)