Talk:Dwain Chambers/GA1

GA Review

Hi, I will be reviewing this article for GA. I have read it and think that it is a very good article, well written and well referenced. I will add comments. below. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:31, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

• Just to clarify, all the records, etc., under Achievements have been removed from him?
  • The achievements are just those that aren't annulled (as noted beneath each table). This is why there is a five year gap from 2001-2006.
• I wonder if there is not a way to incorporate the information under Personal life elsewhere in the article in order to avoid having such a small section. You have mentioned where he was raised elsewhere.
  • Perhaps I could remove the section? I have some information about him having to borrow money from his wife to pay track fees so I could place the son/wife info within the body there. Sound like a good idea to you? Sillyfolkboy (talk) 12:22, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, since you have weaved other personal information in various places in the article.

• Drugs ban should be Drug ban.
• I think this article is close to a GA right now. However, if you are looking to improve the article for a possible FAC (with its stricter requirements) then a reorganization might be helpful. The article is somewhat difficult to follow. Everything is under Biography except the small Achievements section. Actually, Chamber's life can be broken down into periods, for example pre and post drug ban period, subsequent period. Perhaps looking at the article in terms of the periods of his life would be useful. It is hard for someone like me, who is not familiar with all his records, to keep track of what is going on. Giving more guidelines in terms of orienting section headings might help.
• There is the story of his athletic records but there is also the story of his personal experience, including the drug-related bans and the fallout from that. For an athlete, that is quite a story.

Fixed title to drug ban. In terms of layout I intended to separate the sections as such – the Biography featuring the main body and the achievements section including statistics and discussing his career as a whole. This was intended to form the "system of hierarchical headings" expected of FA articles but if you have any suggestions as to how to improve it I'm very open to any changes. What parts in particular cause you to lose track of what's happening? Sillyfolkboy (talk) 20:41, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

I understand what you are saying. I think the article is fine for a GA. Other suggestions I will put on the article talk page.

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

—Mattisse (Talk) 21:08, 10 September 2008 (UTC)