Talk:Dzhokhar Tsarnaev/Archive 2015

Split out Rolling Stone cover material

I think it would be appropriate to split out the Rolling Stone cover controversy to a separate article. Tsarnaev had nothing to do with this photo being used on the magazine cover, so I don't think it's really appropriate content for a biography. (Also, it really breaks the flow of the article as it stands.) Calliopejen1 (talk) 01:21, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

No, 2 reasons. 1. It's not important enough to make its own article. 2. This was cut "The photo on the cover was taken by Dzhokhar himself, not a professional studio phographer. [128] As such, if it seems rock-star "glamorous" to American eyes, it is because that's how he saw himself, and the extent of his Americanization. Thus it is appropriate to the article." I think a comment like that should be put back. The point is this is a biography , the photo is how he saw himself, and he even put it on his webpage/facebook. So it is biographically relevant, and also shows why it was appropriate for RollingStone to use it. In my opinion. GangofOne (talk) 04:14, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

I think it's a little much to conclude that he saw himself as rock-star glamorous based on the fact that one selfie he took (out of hundreds, surely), looks that way when retouched by Rolling Stone... particularly when no reliable source says anything of the sort. (I don't have any opinions about how he saw himself, I just think that this photo is utterly unenlightening.) I think there's a reasonable case for this cover being notable in and of itself -- it caused quite a media stir. If not in an independent article, I'd think it would have a better home at Rolling Stone. I see it's already there... I'd probably just suggest removing it, or greatly reducing it, from this article. Calliopejen1 (talk) 06:26, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

" rock-star glamorous" is not what Tsarneav said, it's what the commentators said about the RS cover. THere is no evidence it was retouched by RS. The point is its NOT a studio shot, it's a selfie image by the subject himself. Interpret it as you wish. GangofOne (talk) 06:39, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Clear case of a biased jury, say some

http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2015/01/07/tsarnaev-jury-built-bias/mlyNHqrO2DPKxLit1uTeOI/story.html

178.38.168.13 (talk) 04:11, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Appeal

On the last day possible, Dzhokhar's legal team filed an appeal after the previous 'placeholder' appeal. 14 pages are blacked out. http://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/herald_bulldog/2015/08/dzhokhar_tsarnaev_blames_social_media_in_appeal http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog/2015/08/18/in-appeal-filing-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-blames-venue-social-media-for-conviction/ 2601:600:8500:B2D9:612B:3A31:E262:B037 (talk) 00:42, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Possible discrepancy re: timeline of arrival to US

This article says that Dzhokhar arrived in the US in April of 2002 and that his elder brother "Tamerlan was left in the care of his uncle Ruslan in Kyrgyzstan, and arrived in the U.S. around two years later." However, the article on Tamerlan Tsarnaev says in the Introduction that he "and his family immigrated to the United States as asylees in 2002."

Moreover, in the section on Tamerlan's activities prior to the bombings it says that "After arriving in the U.S. in 2002, he attended Cambridge Rindge and Latin School, a public high school."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamerlan_Tsarnaev#2002.E2.80.932007

I think it's the Tamerlan article that needs correcting. The source in this article for the date of Dzhokhar's arrival - a WSJ article - seems pretty clear. The articles cited in the other article just say that they arrived "a decade earlier."

Also, is there any information on when the sisters arrived? Ileanadu (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 07:10, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Possible commutation to life imprisionment

I think the entry should adress this issue, if its possible that the President of the United States decides to comute his sentence to life imprisionment. Since he is from Russian origin it also should mention, if thats the case, any possible reaction of President Vladimir Putin to his sentencing and if he also will be asking for the commutation of the sentence, since the death penalty is currently suspended in Russia.Mistico (talk) 03:07, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Dzhokhar is a US citizen. 2601:600:8500:B2D9:612B:3A31:E262:B037 (talk) 00:42, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Dzokhar has nothing to do with Russia. He is a Chechen. Chechens and Russians are as much related as Mexicans and (trad.) US people. During Soviet times their names were written in Cyrillic and they adopted a patronym but they always regarded themselves as separate, with hostilities against Russians going back to the 1700s. About 12 years ago the Chechens wanted to establish a Caliphate from the Caucasus to the Uighurs in China. So Russians would not lift a finger for a Chechen, and definitely not when when he is no longer a Russian citizen. 58.174.193.4 (talk) 04:28, 29 November 2015 (UTC)