Talk:Early life of Fidel Castro

Early life of Fidel Castro has been listed as one of the History good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Review: October 20, 2013. (Reviewed version).

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Socialism High‑importance

	Socialism portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Socialism, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of socialism on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SocialismWikipedia:WikiProject SocialismTemplate:WikiProject Socialismsocialism articles
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.

Cold War (inactive)

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Cold War, a project which is currently considered to be inactive.Cold WarWikipedia:WikiProject Cold WarTemplate:WikiProject Cold WarCold War articles

Biography: Politics and Government

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by the politics and government work group (assessed as High-importance).

Cuba Top‑importance

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Cuba, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Cuba related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.CubaWikipedia:WikiProject CubaTemplate:WikiProject CubaCuba articles

Top

This article has been rated as Top-importance on the project's importance scale.

WikiProject Cuba task list:

Task list

New article announcements:
Requests: Ambrosio Cave, Calero Cave, Centella Cave, Cuba and the United Nations, Cuban Liberation Army, Cuevas de Punta del Este, Cura Cave, Patana Cave, Pluma Cave
Stubs: Dollar store (Cuba)
Verify: History of Cuba, Fulgencio Batista
Update: Nochebuena
NPOV: Armando Valladares, Delfín Fernández, History of Cuba
Copyedit: Armando Peraza, Bay of Pigs Invasion, Fabio Grobart, Julio Antonio Mella
Cleanup: Abelardo Colomé Ibarra, Antonio Maceo Grajales, Bay of Pigs Invasion, History of Cuba, List of Cubans, Máximo Gómez, War against the Bandits
Style: Fidel Castro
Expand: Cuba–Soviet Union relations, Baseball in Cuba, Religion in Cuba, Havana's International Book Fair, Cuba–Venezuela relations, Antonio Sánchez de Bustamante y Sirven

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Early life of Fidel Castro/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Khazar2 (talk · contribs) 01:09, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey MBO, I'll be glad to take this one. Thanks for your work on it--I'm always impressed by your output! Comments to follow soon. -- Khazar2 (talk) 01:09, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Khazar, thanks for tackling this one. Midnightblueowl (talk) 14:16, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

On first pass, this looks quite good-- well-written, well-sourced, and presumably comprehensive (though I'll check it more thoroughly when not listening to baseball). A few small points below:

"without for certain becoming a member." -- this is a little ambiguous. Do you mean it's unclear to historians, or it was unclear to him at the time if he was a member?
- It remains unclear to historians and/or biographers. I will rephrase this to "although biographers are unsure whether he became a member" Midnightblueowl (talk) 14:16, 18 October 2013 (UTC). [reply]
a "self-taught black man" --it seems a little odd to have this in quotations. Is some part of this uncertain? Is it a phrase he used to describe himself?
- That is how he is described in one of the publications referenced. But I agree entirely that it is an odd thing to put into quotations, so I shall rewrite this. Midnightblueowl (talk) 14:58, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
" Castro and Ramonet 2009" -- doesn't appear to point to a full citation
- Oops, I've stuck it back in. Midnightblueowl (talk) 14:58, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing appears to point to the citations for Skierka, Benjamin, Geyer, or Gott. Should they be removed from the list of references?
- I think so; I shall remove them. Midnightblueowl (talk) 14:16, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

More to follow soon! -- Khazar2 (talk) 02:36, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Checklist[edit]

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	~~See minor clarity points above.~~ Spotchecks show no evidence of copyright issues.
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.	~~One citation needs fuller reference (Castro and Ramonet)--I assume it's this?~~
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).
	2c. it contains no original research.
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.	Comparison to pages like http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/244974.stm and http://www.biography.com/people/fidel-castro-9241487 confirms that main aspects are covered here.
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.	~~I think File:U of Havana 1930.jpg needs a tag for its US copyright status.~~
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
	7. Overall assessment.	Pass as GA

Ok, that image is the only thing left; thanks for the speedy fixes! Let me check with somebody more knowledgeable if that tag is acceptable, and if not how it can be cleaned up. -- Khazar2 (talk) 16:51, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Khazar, I'm really not comfortable with the copyright statuses of images and stuff. I can never quite get my head around it. Midnightblueowl (talk) 12:20, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I always have to outsource it, too. In this case my guy says that we at least need the photographer's date of death, which we don't have here. I'm removing the image for now, but feel free to work with Crisco (linked above) to get it back in if you like. And other than that, this is a big pass. Thanks as always for your work. -- Khazar2 (talk) 11:09, 20 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]