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August 11, 2007. -- Elaich talk 16:40, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
Season 6 or not?
I thought CN said that season 6 will consist of a new episode and a movie. However, they now tell us that they aren't working on a sixth season? Can somebody help me? I'm confused? - B.J.
- It was announced at Comic-Con that there will be no season 6. It has been replaced by the movie.[1] -- Elaich talk 16:45, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- No, you misread. They said there will be no season six at this time. The season is still coming, but just not now. --UBracter 13:55, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
- "at this time" does not prove there will be a season six. Until it is announced, for Wikipedia purposes, there is no season six. -- Elaich talk 01:46, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
WHY ARE WE ARGUING AGAIN? Godzillastar 14:38, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
- aw I don't get it I thought there was,I checked in this artical a few times and I read there was but now there isnt.I really need to look this up.
any ways I still think there gonna be a 6 season. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theguywithacomputer (talk • contribs) 20:34, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
They just aired the first episode of the sixth season in Australia and the UK a couple of months ago.--Particleman24 (talk) 15:09, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
- If you're referring to the Invaded episode then yes, it isn't part of season 5 but isn't part of season 6 either. --treelo talk 15:15, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
- That's not the episode I'm talking about. I'm talking about "May I Have This Ed" and "Look Before You Ed". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Particleman24 (talk • contribs) 15:21, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
- Right, well I haven't seen them airing within the UK and it's really odd for episodes from a new season to air outside the US and have it only be two episodes of it which air. Problem for me is one that you haven't cited where you get this info from for the episodes and the airdates, if you can then it's OK but seeing as every time you've added it to the episode lists it's been removed for that reason it seems you can't actually prove they aired. Cite it if you think it's true but don't be surprised if it's taken out when you don't, I'll go investigate and try and cross reference the airdates you mention. treelo talk 15:31, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
- OK, nothing I've viewed corroborates with what info you've mentioned, not airdates and not the episodes in question. As such, I've warned you for adding this unsourced info again and reverted all your edits which are about these episodes in the mainspace. treelo talk 15:49, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
- Hey, Treelo, read this!: http://www.the3eds.com/viewtopic.php?t=9728 --Particleman24 (talk) 11:52, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- It doesn't say anything beyond conjecture, nobody has the info about a season six any more "officially" than their own opinion and fanboi dick-waving. --treelo talk 15:25, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- Hey, laguage. —T-borg (T | C) 21:28, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- OK, didn't mean fanboi. Point is, I'm not taking pointers on factuality about the existence or otherwise of a sixth season from a forum. Figured this issue was sorted and really, I don't care that much about it, just seemed like fun but then when you get the crazy fans giving you a hard time because you don't believe in the content they want to have it stops being that way. Field all future questions to Elaich please, thank you. --treelo talk 21:49, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- Hey, laguage. —T-borg (T | C) 21:28, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- It doesn't say anything beyond conjecture, nobody has the info about a season six any more "officially" than their own opinion and fanboi dick-waving. --treelo talk 15:25, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- Hey, Treelo, read this!: http://www.the3eds.com/viewtopic.php?t=9728 --Particleman24 (talk) 11:52, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- OK, nothing I've viewed corroborates with what info you've mentioned, not airdates and not the episodes in question. As such, I've warned you for adding this unsourced info again and reverted all your edits which are about these episodes in the mainspace. treelo talk 15:49, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
- Right, well I haven't seen them airing within the UK and it's really odd for episodes from a new season to air outside the US and have it only be two episodes of it which air. Problem for me is one that you haven't cited where you get this info from for the episodes and the airdates, if you can then it's OK but seeing as every time you've added it to the episode lists it's been removed for that reason it seems you can't actually prove they aired. Cite it if you think it's true but don't be surprised if it's taken out when you don't, I'll go investigate and try and cross reference the airdates you mention. treelo talk 15:31, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
- That's not the episode I'm talking about. I'm talking about "May I Have This Ed" and "Look Before You Ed". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Particleman24 (talk • contribs) 15:21, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Cancelled?
After the movie, will there be a sixth/seventh season? Or is the show finished? --Wack'd Talk to me! • Admire my handiwork! 00:53, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- At this point, nobody knows. Therefore, as far as Wiki is concerned, the answer is "no" until proven "yes." -- Elaich talk 13:50, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
The crew of Ed, Edd n Eddy conducted a panel Thursday at San Diego Comic-Con and provided the following information about the future of the series. As previously reported on Toon Zone News there will not be a sixth season of the series at this time since they chose to put their time into making a movie instead. The movie is tentatively titled Ed, Edd n Eddy's Big Picture Show and the plot will focus on the Eds searching for Eddy's brother. The elusive character will finally make an appearance in the movie.
The key word is at this time. There will be another season. --UBracter 13:58, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
- You have no proof of such, no reference, and insistence on believing this is merely POV. -- Elaich talk 20:46, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
We don't know if it's happening or not. They're still unsure of what's going to happen from what I've seen, so let's not go off the deep end with it. Besides, I can't wait to see Eddy's brother. Link 486 13:54, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
Vanlisim
How was what I did vanalism? Could you please explian? --UBracter 23:12, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
- I didn't really see it as vandalism, more as large changes to the article without discussion. I think that was rather bold, don't you, Elaich? —May the Edit be with you, always. (T|C) 01:08, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
- Blanking large blocks of text, like deleting the entire list of voice actors, will always be viewed as vandalism on Wikipedia. Some of his edits were pretty good, but, as you said, were massive in scope, and should be discussed. UBracter has a history of making non-notable edits, and/or creating non-notable pages. It does seem like he is trying: however, he allows his heart (i.e. what he wants to see and believe in) get in the way of his head. For instance, his repeated attempts to recreate a page for an Ed, Edd n Eddy movie that has not been made or released yet resulted in a page that required admins to block any attempt at making. (I know he wasn't the only one trying to create it.) Or his blind faith insistence that "at this time" means there will be a Season 6, even though there has been no announcement of it. Or his unsustained belief that the aliens episode was a part of season 6, when every other Cartoon Network show it appeared in views it as a special episode. I explained to him that this is an encyclopedia, and that edits must be based on fact. I have never suspected bad faith in his case, unlike some others. He did make some good edits, but the entire scope of them required me to revert because of the section blanking. Massive, undiscussed changes to any Wikipedia page like those will almost always result in a revert. I would welcome discussion, which is what nobody seems to want to do any more. The only posts to this talk page seem to be challenges to my edits or reversions. If anyone has a valid point to make, so do it. Instead, most of what we get are completely irrational edits, and then I get called names if I revert them. You haven't had much to discuss recently either, T-borg. -- Elaich talk 01:47, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Hmmm. So, how much work do you think is needed on the article to make it GA? —May the Edit be with you, always. (T|C) 12:04, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
- I don't think there's a thing wrong with this article as it stands. It's existed in the same basic form for almost 2 years now, so that in itself says something about it. That's why I am so wary of editors who want to "fix what ain't broken.... just because I can." Then, you get these who think their edits are so much better than everybody else's that there is no reasoning with them, when their edits have really hurt the article. These are the hardest to deal with, because of the ego involved. To do what you suggest requires a team of dedicated editors who basically agree on what the article should say. I took part in one such effort recently, and we got an article approved for Featured status. I basically rewrote an entire section (story) and most of what I wrote was accepted, and ended up being the final version, except for a few small changes made by others. This article may need a few small changes as far as structure to really be Wiki compliant. It's always better when you have a team working together, as others will have different insights, and it also makes it easier to resist rogue editors, since there will be a community consensus. The community here has dwindled away lately, with no new episodes and the show either on hiatus, or finished completely.
- If anything needs help, it's the List of characters article. That's the one that is constantly subject to drive by edits, fancruft, etc. A Wiki project could be started to improve the entire Ed, Edd n Eddy category: be forewarned that others may join who do not have the same ideas or vision that some of the older editors around here do. We could sure use some help with Wikifying the thing. The episodes area is basically a mess. There are also forks that have deviated greatly from format - I work almost every day trying to keep the forks shut down. The problem is that the (shall we say "younger?) editors who create these forks do so to try and escape the scrutiny of the editing community. Forks are frowned on by Wikipedia, so getting rid of them is usually pretty easy. The other point is that these articles will require constant (and I mean day to day) vigilance for the near present, because immediately, others will try to change what has been done by reverting, inserting fancruft, etc. It's the nature of the beast. Any comments? -- Elaich talk 14:49, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
- As a matter of fact, yes. You kinda reminded me of Mad-Eye Moody with that comment. :) —May the Edit be with you, always. (T|C) 15:19, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Just for the record, I don't bevlie that "The Eds Are Coming" is a season six episode. I just bevile that it belongs in a season because it is the 65th episode. Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends is an example of a show that labels the show as a normal episdoe. Despite being part of a storyline, it is an offical episode since it aired here as part of a USA event. No one truly knows were to put it yet, so for now, it can go in specials. Next time I want to make a major change, I put it up here for discussion. --UBracter 11:11, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
It could have been vandilised due to the last episode without censorship,--Someguyudontknow 01:25, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Last aired
I am so sick and tired of the edit wars by IPs over this field. The show is still airing, so there should not even be such a field. I am going to delete it ongoingly. -- Elaich talk 02:14, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
- The last air date is the date that the last episode has aired. Since it aired, then the last air date deserves to stay until a sixth season is announced. Dylanlip 22:27, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
but it is still technically not over. there is the tv movie that still has yet to air. we should change "october 24 2007" to "present."M M 16:29, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
- Until a new episode airs or a new season is announced, the ORIGINAL RUN of Ed, Edd n Eddy is OVER!!!!! What is so hard to understand about this? REPEATS ARE NOT PART OF THE ORIGINAL RUN. -- Elaich talk 03:14, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
no, the run IS NOT over. there is still a movie that has yet to air. once that airs ed edd n eddy will be officaly over, but until then the show is still going on. now what is so hard to understand about that? M M (talk) 19:54, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
- It is over, the movie doesn't count as an episode, so the TV series has ended its original run, unless new episodes are released. —May the Edit be with you, always. (T|C) 21:03, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
but the movie counts as part of the series, so therefore the series has not yet ended. M M (talk) 15:22, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
- M M, post some proof or drop it. At this point, it is not even known if it's a TV movie or not. The movie is NOT part of the series. Period. -- Elaich talk 19:04, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
If the series is over, the last air date is the date of the last episode on television. Movies are not aired directly to television, they are displayed in cinemas. M M you are arguing for the end of the series date rather than last aired or you are trolling.--Improfane (talk) 20:49, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
The date the last episode aired for the first time. Andy Griffith is still running to this day, but nobody would be so inane as to suggest it is still in it's original run. -- Elaich talk 01:38, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
There's no reason for such redundant arguments, fellow Wikipedians. What I suggest is that we simply tell when the show's newest episode last aired, and then merely wait until either new episodes are released or the movie hits television. I think that would work. — Cinemaniac (talk) 01:55, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
- Tell that to the idiot IP editors who insist on changing this several times daily. Maybe you should put this page on your watchlist, and help with deleting the fancruft. -- Elaich talk 05:15, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
- Now now, there are good IPs, you know. Let's not pop veins over misunderstandings. We all know the drill, someone posts something, if it's innacurate it gets deleted, if they keep posting it after being contacted about it, they get blocked. Haven't you heard of Eventualism, Elaich? ;) —May the Edit be with you, always. (T|C) 13:17, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
- There is no reason for anyone not to register and log in using it unless 1) they are hit and run editors or 2) they have a history here which prevents it. It's hard to get IP editors blocked because many of them do not have static IPs. People who connect on dialup are assigned a different IP every time they connect. I'm on DSL, but if I pull my plug and plug it back in, I will also get a different IP. That's why I don't cut them much slack. There has been such a concerted effort recently to change that field, it almost makes me think there is collusion. -- Elaich talk 20:22, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
- There are some good IPs out there, of course. Take me for example. I used to be an IP editor too, during which I used three IP Addresses, although the one I used most often was 164.58.96.126. What separated me from a great deal of them was that I actually tried to assess things logically, bringing up valid arguments only when I could be backed up by a reliable source. See here for a rather odd discussion I (JS) had with another IP editor over Open Season. In any case, I'll help you guys out on the page. — Cinemaniac (talk) 03:46, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
remember guys, its not a movie coming to theaters, its a tv movie. i think that should count as an "extended episode" or something like that. and you want proof of the movie? try reading the article. http://news.toonzone.net/article.php?ID=18298. but i guess we can do what cinemaniac suggested and wait until the movie airs and then say "1999-whenever" the movie airs, though i think it would be more accurate if the article said "1999-present" up until the movie airs, then we change it. M M (talk) 22:35, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
- That's an extremely old reference, and we haven't heard anything about the movie since. What you think doesn't count. This is an encyclopedia, and we only publish facts. Until a new episode of EEnE airs, present is incorrect as 'last aired.' -- Elaich talk 03:15, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
extremely old? comic con was what, 4 months ago? thats not exactly "extremely old."M M (talk) 20:14, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- Where does it say anywhere in that link that it will be a TV movie? -- Elaich talk 05:36, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
no where. i do recall reading that it will be a tv movie though, and a tv movie seems most likely. do you really think CN would release the movies in theaters after the powerpuff girls movie? and even if it does get released in theaters, how does that make it not part of the ed edd n eddy series?M M (talk) 19:53, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
The Movie
Now all that's been said is "the movie", but just wanna know, do you think the movie will just be a TV movie, or be released in theaters. I think that it'll be in theaters, because with the humongouse plot and the fact that the Eds have been on for almost 10 years, it makes sense, but you never know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Onepiece226 (talk • contribs) 13:58, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Not sure man but hey have ANY nickelodeon or cartoonentwork movies been in the theatures? maybe one if i'm REALLY careless Godzillastar 05:53, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
there were 2 rugrats movies, a rugrats-wild thornberries crossover, spongebob, and powerpuff girls which all were released in theaters.M M 16:30, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
TV movie. Cartoon Network hasn't realeased a theather movie since PPG since it flopped. --UK Bakosi (talk) 22:18, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Yeah but that dosen't mean anything! The Power Puff girls movie flopped because Cartoon Network hardly marketed it and no one knew it was out. Besides Cartoon Network is going to make a Samurai Jack movie according to the creator in many interviews so until Cartoon Network or the creator give an offical statement on if it's a tv movie or theatrical release it'll stay as just the movie. --Onepiece226 (talk) 7:53, 7 December 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.250.12.122 (talk)
controversy
I recal double d saying d*mn in his room eddy saying f*ck diving on the ground and rolf saying b*stard in the episode a fist full of ed if you need proff lisson to 4:40-4:42 very closely http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFUgmsyH7Fk Godzillastar 00:27, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
- I didn't hear anything there. --Esanchez(Talk 2 me or Sign here) 00:43, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
- You're hallucinating, Godzillastar. What difference would it make, anyway? -- Elaich talk 07:23, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
- It's on Cartoon Network, so no... DietLimeCola 20:14, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
i'm hallucinating? I'M HALLUCINATING THERE ARE OVER 12 COMENTS ON THAT VID THAT SAY ROLF SAID B*STARD —Preceding unsigned comment added by Godzillastar (talk • contribs) 00:49, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
- He DIDN'T say bastard, fuck, damn, or ANY of those words, because this show is mainly targeted towards kids, and they would get in trouble if they said those words. Those people on the comments are just thinking they did, and with all the funny accents the characters have, it MIGHT sound like they're saying it. They aren't, and if they did, it would be all over the news and Cartoon Network would get sued by angry parents. Yeah, they're really going to cuss right after a Pokemon promo, give me a break.
- I just viewed it again, it seems Rolf just said a work from his old country language that sounds like "crusher". It's all speculation, and something would of happened if it was bastard? NOW DROP IT! DietLimeCola 19:23, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
- Lovely, I did some research and I think he's another sock puppet of Komodo lover. [2] Do you have ANYTHING better to do with your time? Confusing people and creating sections to annoy editors is NOT FUNNY, and it wastes their time. You've been blocked over THIRTY TIMES, so STOP IT. DietLimeCola 06:02, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Rolf's customs
Good reading for those who don't understand, or get a kick out of Rolf's strange customs. [3] -- Elaich talk 22:02, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Attention Everyone
It appears that many of the vandals and people who kept adding garbage to the cartoon network pages (Including the Ed's pages) in the past were sock puppets. I have put together information regarding the sock puppets, and a list of sock puppets. Take a look here. Perhaps when we see crap like that in the future we could get them banned instead of arguing with them. Although of course not ALL people adding garbage to the pages are vandals, just keep an eye out for editing patterns.
If you think someone might be a sock puppet, please compare their edits with the information provided with the page, and if you see a connection, file a report. DietLimeCola 06:07, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- Hmm, this is a new one on me. I have my own suspicions regarding a sockpuppeteer who edits these pages, but none of those fit. -- Elaich talk 14:43, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Notice
Just a reminder, stay cool people. No need to show aggravation and feed the trolls, Ok? Remember, no acknowledgement. You're probably gonna hate me now, aren't you. ;) —May the Edit be with you, always. (T|C) 22:08, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- In a notice in the original template about the "last-aired date", one editor has put something along the lines of "the original run of this show is in fact over". I'd say it's questionable whether or not the show is over in regards to its original run. In fact, the article itself states that "The sixth season has been put on hiatus, as the crew is working on the movie". The in-line notice regarding the last-aired date thus seems to be contradicting the rest of the article. Any suggestions? — Cinemaniac (talk) 18:56, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
- The show is over until a new season is announced, or new episodes air. "Hiatus" was the wrong term to be used. The show is indefinitely postponed, and there is no agreement with CN to make any more episodes, period. Wasn't this already discussed in the "Last Aired" section earlier on this page? -- Elaich talk 19:35, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, it was; I apologize for not really searching the page. But thanks for answering anyway. I can also tell your tone is a lot more cool and civil than in that previous section. Congrats on that!
- Too bad the show's over; it was probably the only animated show on Cartoon Network that I really enjoyed watching on a regular basis, given the rest of the "crazy" and "zany" (and I don't mean that in a good way) shows that clog that channel's schedule. It looks like CN will really drop in the ratings, or at least lose viewers, if they officially announce the show's cancellation. I'll be one of 'em. I hope the movie is good, and I hope that it will answer some nagging questions that I have.
- And on that note: No—we don't hate you, T-borg. . . :) — Cinemaniac (talk) 20:08, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Premise Section
I understand the meaning of this sentence, "If a VCR is needed in a plot, it is there," but I do not think that this is the best choice of words to back up the creator's claim that he wanted the show to appeal to any generation. It seems kind of like it was just thrown in. I had to read the sentence over again to realize why it was put there. Before I edit this sentence, I would like to know whether or not other editors who genuinely care about this article feel the same way. My edit would go something like this, "Danny Antonucci has stated that he wanted the show to appeal to any generation. If a VCR is needed in a plot, it is there," to "Danny Antonucci has stated that he wanted the show to appeal to any generation. Accordingly, technology that all viewers can relate to is incorporated into the show." Grammar Watchdog (talk) 04:57, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
- "If a VCR is needed in a plot, it is there" is a very simple way to state that fact. If a cassette player, or a computer is needed in the plot, it is there. They are not there otherwise. Very simple, and both examples have happened in the show. Your proposed change muddles the meaning, and would seem to indicate that the show is full of technology, which it isn't. Technology does not appear in Ed, Edd n Eddy unless it is needed for the plot to advance. That's a very simple way to present the idea, and your suggestion would only serve to cause confusion over the meaning. -- Elaich talk 07:46, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Cast
I was reading an ed edd 'n eddy fanfic and the author e-mailed the voice of nazz/may andhe asked her about the movie. She says the cast hasn't been notified. So is there really a movie? I'm watchin' you,mon (talk) 16:29, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
- There certainly hasn't been any word of the movie since the announcement was made. -- Elaich talk 05:24, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
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New Episode before Movie
A new EEnE episode will premire in the months before the movie premires. I have prove of the episode, since the company that does sound design for the show has clips from this episode on it's website. Clip--UBracter (talk) 20:50, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
That info is right! and I added the episode "May I have this Ed?" up in the season 5 episodes since there isint a season 6 yet! Onepiece226 (talk) 02:34, 22 January 2008 (UTC)Onepiece226
- This is no proof of anything, except that somebody is working on an episode. No idea where the episode fits in, or if it will even be finished and released. Same thing with the movie. In an encyclopedic world, fact is the keyword. Speculation, rumors, something somebody found on a webpage with no descripition of what it is, simply does not exist here. The last word of the movie was 2 months ago. Yes, it is in production, but how many things that were in production never saw the light of day? Until there is an announcement that the movie is finished, it does not bear mentioning here, except that it is "in production." It also has no bearing on the "last aired" field on the main page. Until a brand new episode or the movie airs, the series run ended on May 11, 2007. As has been said many times, this is not a fan page or a blog. It is an encyclopedia. -- Elaich talk 15:40, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
But when there is visible proof of the new episode, how dose'nt that count??? That Sound website are the official sound mixers for EEnE, and have placed the new song clip used in the episode that they're currently working on that should air before the movie. What more proof of the episode would you need? Right and a encyclopedia is supposed to help people learn, and when there's a new episode shown, it's our duty to put it up. It dose'nt matter if we don't know when this episode will air, that's why i put up the TBA and a link to the referenceOnepiece226 (talk) 01:55, 23 January 2008 (UTC)Onepiece226
The episode has NOT AIRED, and nobody knows anything about it. Nobody knows if and when it ever will air. Anything said about it is SPECULATION. What part of that do you not understand? -- Elaich talk 03:17, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Ok but when it is announced or whatever THEN can we put it up?Onepiece226 (talk) 17:29, 23 January 2008 (UTC)Onepiece226
- Why, yes, when it becomes a fact. Same thing with the movie. Until the air date of the movie is announced, it's just speculation. Wikipedia had to ban any pages with the name "Ed, Edd n Eddy's Big Picture Show" because people were already acting as if the movie were a fact. -- Elaich talk 03:10, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
- May I Have this Ed / Look Before you Ed are scheduled to air in Australia on January 25th at 6:00PM. [4]. DietLimeCola (talk) 05:00, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
- Wow, why does it premier in Australia? Now, we add all kinds of other weird stuff. UK as opposed to North American air dates differ greatly. Where does Australia fall? Into UK? This is the North American Wiki page, so how do we deal with this? I guess we announce (after it actually airs) that a new EEnE episode aired in the UK but has not aired here yet. Until it actually airs in NA, we cannot add it to List of Episodes. It hasn't happened here yet. -- Elaich talk 06:28, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
- Well "All Eds are Off / Smile for the Ed" aired in the UK first. When that first happened, we just added a simple note that the air date was from the UK. When an air date in the US was announced, we changed the date to it's US airing. Not sure why it's airing their first, but when the UK first aired that old episode, it took six months for it to air in the states. However, I'm not sure what season to put it in. 5, 6, or specials? We don't even know "Look Before your Ed"'s plot. (May I have this Ed though is about the Eds going to the school dance or something). This might be trouble with veritably since none of us can actually see the episode except people from Australia, and they can make things up and we wouldn't know if it was true or not. DietLimeCola (talk) 06:57, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
- Both episodes were posted on Youtube, so it's a fact they have aired. -- Elaich talk 01:43, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
- I'm glad to see that a few new episodes have aired. I haven't seen any new installments—or much of the show itself, for that matter—since May of last year! — Cinemaniac (talk • contribs) 01:58, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Ok see, i'm not sounding like a jerk and I understand why but I told you Elaich. Ok well alot of Cartoons have the same problem on Wikipedia. While the Danny Phantom season 3 was airing in the UK, they would put that date and under the North American date they just put TBA like I did the first time I put May I Have this Ed / Look Before you Ed under season 5. We know it's not the UK wikipedia, but it's just a reasurance that it's coming. So that people know it exists. As for what season, I'd say season 5 only because they haven't said anything about a season 6, and I don't think it counts as a special. I think that this episode may have been one they've just never finished and now getting it ready for the excitement over the movie. The almost exact same thing happened to Jimmy Neutron and the Fairly Oddparents. After JTPH3 both shows we're announced ended but later on in the year they had 3 new eps of Jimmy and 1 of FOP, but FOP got renewed. And for the movie, I know there's no exact date but the3eds.com is a site started by a guy who works with Ed, Edd, n Eddy, and from what it says there they're going to be finishing the end of all of the touch ups in March/April for a end of Summer/Fall release. Not saying to put that up just saying =). So can we put the episode up or not? cause if you say yes, I want to because I wanted to before, if not then we can wait but it's up to you ElaichOnepiece226 (talk) 22:02, 24 January 2008 (UTC)Onepiece226
Movie or Not?
Okay people, I've said it before and I'll say it again, I don't know if there's a movie or not. I was reading an Ed, Ed, n' Eddy fanfic, and the user got to talk to the person who voices Nazz. She said when the author asked she hadn't even heard of the Movie. No one told her. So is there one or not? I don't know if the show is ending or not. And people, please stop biting each others heads off each time someone says the show is ending or continuing, it's annoying. Thank you for your time. loolylolly1997 20:32, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
- You got your source from a fan fiction writer, who could also say that there will be 20 more seasons of the show if she wanted to. From a reliable source, there is evidence that a movie is getting made, but we don't know when or if it will air. I'm also removing the link to the fanfic, it seems like link spam to me. DietLimeCola (talk) 01:13, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
- What about the other place where the voice actor for Nazz (allegedly) said last summer how much fun she was having doing the voiceovers, and how there was going to be a lot more about Nazz in the movie? That's why Wikipedia does not publish this stuff: all of it is based on rumors, conjecture and "he said, she said." We do not publish anything here that does not come from official sources, like Cartoon Network or Animation By Mistake. And yes, that includes Edtropolis. -- -- Elaich talk 01:21, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Your Ideas on this Subject
Now for about a couple of months now, it seems there is an argument about 2 Ed, Edd, n Eddy episodes. May I have this Ed, and Look Before you Ed. Now these episodes have not officially aired on the U.S Cartoon Network, but are available for viewing on most digital cable freezones, like Cox or Comcast. Now these episodes recently have both appeared on Youtube. Now I think that since they are visibly real episodes, since um well they are episodes, some think that since they haven't officially aired in America, they shouldn't be included in the episode section, Now what do you all think about this? In or Out?Onepiece226 (talk) 21:27, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- Because it didn't air in the US was some people's reasoning for non-inclusion? Feh, that's not the best reason I've heard. Thing to me was one where those who wanted to add it couldn't verify this and neither could anyone else, YouTube still isn't a means for verification. Besides which, if they get listed do they get mentioned as season six episodes (bearing in mind there won't be a season six or at least much of one) or season five episodes? This is the quandary I see and yes, the episodes might exist but unless you know what season they definitively belong to and can back that up then they have nowhere. Could add it on as part of the season five eps but it isn't given the time gap, that's the issue. Word to wise also, don't put your handle at the end of your tildes, doesn't need to be there twice. --treelo talk 21:45, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- Well the creators have said in many interviews that there may, or may-not be a 6th season. So I guess that means the 5th season! No one has found anything else but Youtube because they haven't been mentioned in the US. I just believe since we KNOW that this episode does exist, it should be includedOnepiece226 (talk) 21:50, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- Fifth season it is then, add them in and see how things go, don't forget to cite if you're using the YouTube clips to support the existence of the eps. --treelo talk 22:42, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- Well the creators have said in many interviews that there may, or may-not be a 6th season. So I guess that means the 5th season! No one has found anything else but Youtube because they haven't been mentioned in the US. I just believe since we KNOW that this episode does exist, it should be includedOnepiece226 (talk) 21:50, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- All seasons of EEnE have 13 shows. Without these episodes, season 5 only has 12. They are obviously the 13th show of season 5. -- Elaich talk 02:05, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
- That doesn't mean anything. Unless the creator said that, (if he did then disregard this) the thirteen episode thing could be an emazing couincidence (disregard my grammar). Or it could be something he doesn't care for. Gregory E. Miller (talk) 00:30, 1 May 2008 (UTC))
- No, it does... for sorting anyway and because every other season of any show on Cartoon Network or any other network within the US usually have thirteen 21 minute episodes to any given season. The episodes exist, that's proven but there's no point creating the season six episode list if these are the only episodes which will be part of that "season". Nothing official has been said about what the sixth season will be so we'll go with these being the final eps of season 5 until we know better. --treelo talk 00:56, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
- That doesn't mean anything. Unless the creator said that, (if he did then disregard this) the thirteen episode thing could be an emazing couincidence (disregard my grammar). Or it could be something he doesn't care for. Gregory E. Miller (talk) 00:30, 1 May 2008 (UTC))
External Links
hey what about the people who have sites and want them on the page like mine? www.long-live-the-eds.wetpaint.com because it would be nice to have a few (good) fansites on the external links part ~~GMC~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by EEE111 (talk • contribs) 05:31, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Not likely, two reasons. First, no fansites due to it being policy and if it wasn't there all you'd get is a huge linkfarm at the bottom with more people fighting over who gets top billing than editing the article itself. Secondly, "good" is very relative and not really the best criteria by which to justify the addition of a website. treelo talk 08:56, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
There is a season 6 it has been established
The new episodes "May I Have This Ed" and "Look Before You Ed" have aired, but not yet in America. They have been declared part of season six. Hope this answers some of your questions. ~Enchantz (talk) 2:51 p.m. 22 May 2008
- Declared, by whom? WP:V please? Yngvarr (c) 19:53, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Sigh, again? Alright, until season six or a finale movie is announced with verifiable sourcing those two episodes belong to season five as nobody can prove eitherway and being in season five doesn't deny existence of the eps but neither accepts a hunch made at a forum they must be the start of season six. treelo talk 20:03, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- It's not a matter of criticizing. If you look at both this talk page and the article history, it's not a new issue. So far, all there is are rumors and postings on fan forums. WP:V needs to be applied. Yngvarr (c) 23:23, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Until there is an official announcement from either Animation By Mistake, or Cartoon Network, nothing has been declared. Sorry, but that's the way Wikipedia works. There has been an announcement that a new episode will air in the US on June 29, but that has not happened yet. It can be stated that an announcement has been made, but until it actually happens, it can't be taken as fact. Believe it or not, these announcements have been made in the past, and then CN decides to change the schedule, and it never happens. -- Elaich talk 14:28, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
If you go to the Cartoon Network website and click on Ed,Edd, & Eddy and then click schedule the first thing that is shown is June 29th they are going to have a 8 hour marathon of Ed,Edd,& Eddy with the new episodes "May I have this Ed/Look before you Ed" airing at 7:30PM eastern time. Wikipedia also says June 29th 2008(USA). Besides who cares if it's season 5 or 6. Just be happy are going to get some new episodes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.195.119.105 (talk) 08:01, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Ending date
Ok, enough reverting. Let's just wait out until those episodes air, then we'll see what to do next. But right now, we're not gonna do anything by arguing. We've got all the time in the world, so I see no reason to argue, ok? —T-borg (T | C) 23:11, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- Agreed. After all, the supposed airdate is only 11 days away in the US. Paper Luigi 23:49, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- I took out the last_aired section of the infobox for a reason and not one which I believe will be resolved come the airing of the tailend of season five. We know that those episodes exist and reckon with some confidence they belong to season five which'd give us that date as the final airdate but what of this mystery sixth season or finale feature length episode that's somewhere in the pipeline? Nobody even has anything solid about which it is or even if it's happening at all which is what's giving me concern. My suggestion is for now to either not have a final date as it is right now or consider it ongoing and mark it as "present" until the airdate of these episodes and see if any new season or the feature gets a mention. Now here's the tricky part, what happens if we don't get anything on this fabled new season or the feature? Can't just plug away with present or change the date to the newest episode, then you'll just end up with the same issue as before. That's the part which needs real attention, not what we have there for the next 11 or so days. treelo talk 00:13, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
- I tried taking the "last aired" field out before, only to have people insist on putting it back. That was some time ago, and the article is not under nearly as much scrutiny as it was then, so maybe it will stick this time. Having the article semi-protected has really helped. -- Elaich talk 02:27, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
- Hm, yknow, seeing as most of the badness came from the really passionate fanbase coming through via anons some time before the extended prot came to be, we should be able to come to a consensus on what we do in the future now and keep certain things stuck if we want to given there's enough eyes on it. Is there a consensus right now on keeping the date out until we can get a sourced one? Like I said before, the problem is if we don't get any more info as then we're back in the same position as before. treelo talk 09:08, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
- I tried taking the "last aired" field out before, only to have people insist on putting it back. That was some time ago, and the article is not under nearly as much scrutiny as it was then, so maybe it will stick this time. Having the article semi-protected has really helped. -- Elaich talk 02:27, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
(undent) Well, I think it'll be best for now to keep the last_aired parameter out of the picture, after the episodes air... can't we just mark it as "To be announced" until we get a reliable source for its cancellation and leave a comment on the page? I'm sure the producers will announce its fate after those eps, show isn't exactly small time. (oh, and please don't indent this comment :))—T-borg (T | C) 17:22, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
- We are leaving it out, what I want to know is how we're going to deal with this in the future. treelo talk 19:00, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe a new template is in order here, or we could just remove the last_aired part again in the future. Any other suggestions? Paper Luigi 22:32, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
- Sounds like you all have reached consensus, and the article has been indef semi-protected. I'd say that should be good. If any disputes arise, this discussion can be used to confirm that agreement with those who dispute the content. Yngvarr (c) 22:47, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe a new template is in order here, or we could just remove the last_aired part again in the future. Any other suggestions? Paper Luigi 22:32, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Episode Count
I don't really think we should count the specials in the actual episode count, since they weren't ordered as part of a season, they were ordered separately. I think we should only put 65 episodes on the "No. of episodes" line, instead of 69.--UBracter (talk) 15:22, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
- They are still Ed, Edd n Eddy episodes. I don't follow the logic of leaving them out. -- Elaich talk 23:20, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
- While they are still EEnE episodes, they don't really have any episode number. If you think they should be mentioned, how about putting "65 (and 4 specials)"? --UBracter (talk) 03:57, 22 June 2008 (UTC)--
Good article
What would be needed to nominate this for "good article" status? I would suspect the lack of verifiable sources in many cases. It's so hard to get a cartoon article to this status, because most of it's universe is established by viewing the cartoon itself. Often, not much is published in hard print about a cartoon series.
The article has stood the test of time, and has been well written for many months, even years, now, due to the efforts of a handful of dedicated editors. (Sure wish DietLimeCola were still around.) Being semi-protected has helped, also the fact that the show is no longer in the mainstream on CN, which also helps by not attracting the preteen viewers who have just discovered not only the show but a site that "anybody can edit."
So, suggestions - what really is needed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elaich (talk • contribs)
- Put it forward for GAN, whatever you need to know will be told to you by the reviewer. treelo radda 23:35, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
- Treelo pretty much said it all, but you may want to peer review it, first. Cinemaniac (talk • contribs • critique) 00:13, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Ed, Edd n' Eddy: Lost Episode
There was a commercial on TV just a while ago, announcing Cartoon Network is planning on making a marathon of Ed, Edd, n Eddy, and they would play the lost episode at the end. Story♦Teller♥ Scream a little scream 15:18, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
- Yup, someone just updated the article with info about it. I'm just concerned what "lost episode" this is. treelo radda 17:35, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
- It's that last Ed, Edd, n Eddy episode in season 5Onepiece226 (talk) 19:51, 24 June 2008 (UTCOnepiece226
- Oh, well then, seems that our mystery finale for EEnE remains just that. treelo radda 20:27, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
- I bet that this "lost episode" will be May I Have This Ed/Look Before You Ed.
- http://the3eds.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=11030 --Particleman24 (talk) 20:52, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, OnePiece226 said that it will be but they didn't spam with yet another link to the3eds.com and their miserable forum of rumour as truth mongering, inane little fits of rage over nothing, "my fanboism is much greaterer than yours, I make bad YouTube videos in a poor attempt at humour" and so forth. treelo radda 22:13, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- The link I posted had links in it that lead to actual proof. Just look through the tread and you'll find some posts containing actual info. --Particleman24 (talk) 14:31, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
- I did when you posted it initially, it didn't lead to any proof then and it still doesn't now so what's your point? We know what the missing episode will be so it doesn't matter what the forums at the3eds say. Images don't say anything, please don't blow this to the almighty stupid levels the whole sixth season/feature movie issue got to. treelo radda 14:52, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
- The link I posted had links in it that lead to actual proof. Just look through the tread and you'll find some posts containing actual info. --Particleman24 (talk) 14:31, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, OnePiece226 said that it will be but they didn't spam with yet another link to the3eds.com and their miserable forum of rumour as truth mongering, inane little fits of rage over nothing, "my fanboism is much greaterer than yours, I make bad YouTube videos in a poor attempt at humour" and so forth. treelo radda 22:13, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, well then, seems that our mystery finale for EEnE remains just that. treelo radda 20:27, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
- It's that last Ed, Edd, n Eddy episode in season 5Onepiece226 (talk) 19:51, 24 June 2008 (UTCOnepiece226
Is it on yet? 70.3.113.129 (talk) 00:19, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
It aired yesterday in the USA. 72.241.25.17 (talk) 16:31, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Yep yep. I saw it, too. Here's a Youtube link to "May I Have This Ed?". The other video, of "Look Before You Ed", was available until recently when it was removed, oddly enough, because of copyright infringement. Cinemaniac (talk • contribs • critique) 02:45, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
- So, can we put this dead horse to rest now? The fervor of the fanboys to add this episode to this encyclopedia before it ever aired far exceeded the impact of the episodes themselves. Yawn. Season 5 is finished. A tentative release date for the movie (in November) has been made. I suppose we will now have to endure all the prattle about that upcoming date, fueled by speculation and postings on fan sites by people who actually may be people working for the production company, but who cannot be verified as so. -- Elaich talk 06:18, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
- Well, if you didn't have to fight to prove the obvious, where would the fun be? You'd be bored before you knew it. treelo radda 11:06, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
- So, can we put this dead horse to rest now? The fervor of the fanboys to add this episode to this encyclopedia before it ever aired far exceeded the impact of the episodes themselves. Yawn. Season 5 is finished. A tentative release date for the movie (in November) has been made. I suppose we will now have to endure all the prattle about that upcoming date, fueled by speculation and postings on fan sites by people who actually may be people working for the production company, but who cannot be verified as so. -- Elaich talk 06:18, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Wikia link?
I have reservations about the appropriateness of that link here. Wikia, though distantly related to Wikipedia, is not an encyclopedia, nor an official site. It's more like a fanboy wiki, is not policed and maintained like Wikipedia, and is far more likely to contain false and misleading information than either. I don't see any difference in that aspect between it and fan sites. I won't remove the link before discussion, but my opinion is strong delete.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Elaich (talk • contribs) 21:29, July 1, 2008
- Yep, you're right. Such sites, despite their inherently good intentions, are often saturated with overt speculation and fancruft. I pretty much second your opinion. Cinemaniac (talk • contribs • critique) 01:45, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
- Well, it depends on how we interpret this section of Wikipedia:External links, mainly number 12: "Links to open wikis, except those with a substantial history of stability and a substantial number of editors." —T-borg (T | C) 02:26, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
- Wikia certainly does not meet the criteria of "those with a substantial history of stability and a substantial number of editors." I went over and cleaned up the Ed, Edd n Eddy section. It read like a second grader's diary. My cleanup didn't last long. What is to be gained by linking to such a site? They will go over there, and get bad ideas to post back here. Wikipedia should only link directly to official sites, and those sites that, over a period of time, inspire trust in the published content. -- Elaich talk 06:26, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe not this Wikia but several others are well maintained and actually have the same standards as any article on Wikipedia would, there is a reason for a template to exist to help with linking. This one however is godawful and not realistically worth keeping, I would have deleted it before but I'm not getting into an edit war over a link again. Consensus seems to be with you, Elaich. treelo radda 11:04, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
- Wikia certainly does not meet the criteria of "those with a substantial history of stability and a substantial number of editors." I went over and cleaned up the Ed, Edd n Eddy section. It read like a second grader's diary. My cleanup didn't last long. What is to be gained by linking to such a site? They will go over there, and get bad ideas to post back here. Wikipedia should only link directly to official sites, and those sites that, over a period of time, inspire trust in the published content. -- Elaich talk 06:26, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
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