Talk:Edinburgh Airport

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History[edit]

I am not quite sure what "which is has since become 06/24" means in this section.--C. Trifle 21:47, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rivalry[edit]

Please note that there is a significant rivalry between the cities of Edinburgh and Glasgow, and aviation fans on the internet have taken this to a new and bitter level.

Please be very suspicious of any blatantly pro- or anti- Glasgow changes made here. To keep a NPOV, this article should not discuss Glasgow at all except in passing.

There is real political debate about the future of Scotland's airports but any statement that airport X will get future investment instead of airport Y, or that airport D is better than airport C because it has B is basically an opinion and does not belong in an encyclopedia page. Please don't let this article turn into (yet another) edinburgh/glasgow bickering ground (see: alt.airports.uk.edinburgh).

I have to say it but I can see this article (and the Glasgow one) having to be locked at some point in the future now that its existence has been mentioned on alt.airports.uk.edinburgh

Thparkth 12:04, 22 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The history of the airport is wrong in several respects. The orignal terminal, now the cargo terminal, was sited on the East side of the airport on the old runway. This was designed by Robert Matthew. The new terminal and runway were built in the late 70's a mile to the West. The airport was running passenger services to the continent way before the 'official' opening of the airport - I know because I flew to Paris from Edinburgh in the mid 70's.

Connected with the rivalry theory, I note that someone made a statement that Edinburgh Airport was the second busiest airport in Scotland in 2007. I have corrected this to say 2006, as 2007 is not over yet, and Edinburgh has, since July 2007, overtaken Glasgow on a yearly basis as the busiest airport in Scotland. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.97.238.110 (talk) 17:05, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cancun and Orlando Sanford. I note that some misguided soul insists on removing reference to the fact that Thomson Airways in commencing seasonal service from Edinburgh to these airports. Again, I suspect this is due entirely to the EDI/GLA rivalry angle. This is a perfectly valid entry, no matter how upsetting some people may find this, having been confirmed both by Thomson and BAA Edinburgh. If the 'editor's' problem is the short nature of the season operational I wonder why he/she hasn't also felt the need to remove Las Vegas from the list of destinations from Glasgow Airport, as this too is a short season charter? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.251.220 (talk) 22:33, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Future Services[edit]

I've added a section under the main destination section - please add future destinations there, and not into the main list itself. Thanks/wangi 16:54, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Former destinations[edit]

Is there any interest in creating a a list of former destinations sub topic for this article? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.9.228.253 (talk) 14:29, August 23, 2007 (UTC)

Current destinations[edit]

Whoever deleted the separate route tables for domestic and international routes in 2010 from Edinburgh owes me an apology. I spent considerable time cross-checking that data to make sure this was accurate. Why did someone feel the need to remove valid and interesting data in order to combine the domestic and international rankings? I can only assume to make Edinburgh Airport seem less international than it is, in which case that is extremely sad. I'll be re-instating the original tables when I have the time, and would be grateful if people would not vandalise my efforts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.3.40.112 (talk) 21:23, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

RAF Turnhouse[edit]

The article seems to suggest that the RAF withdrew entirely from Turnhouse when the site was handed over to the Ministry of Aviation / later to BAA. But I remember there being a Spitfire gate guardian, and RAF personnel, well into the 1980s. Can anybody source any information about the lingering RAF presence, and when they finally withdrew? Perhaps the time of the creation of the cargo centre? – Kieran T (talk) 02:04, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dug up some extra info, although sadly it looks like it's on a commercial site I wouldn't be 100% happy about citing as a reference, here: http://www.edinburgh-airport-uk.info/edinburgh-airport-news-100705.htm
Anyway, dated July 2005, it says: The former RAF Turnhouse is still within the modern airport, but was closed almost 10 years ago, when defence chiefs decided the base was surplus to requirements. There were brief plans in 2002 for the site to be transformed into an accommodation centre for up to 1000 asylum seekers, but this is now no longer planned. Instead, BAA has unveiled plans to develop 7 large industrial warehouses on the site, as part of a business park aimed at delivery and air-freight companies. – Kieran T (talk) 19:31, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

== Demolition is in now progress of RAF Turnhouse , its very noisy at my house (former raf officer's family house) it is wobbling as the demolition team try to rid the site of the blast proof buildings and bunkers - once the glory of Edinburgh's RAF Turnhouse and soon to be just another aluminum clad distribution center,

I find the whole article rather superficial, especially given that no mention is made of various based civil and military units. For example, no mention is made of the Ferranti Flying Unit or the 207 squadron Devon detachment or even 151 squadron flying Javelins which were based at Turnhouse in the mid 1950s — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kylie Ramone (talk • contribs) 12:25, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Destinations in the 1980s and before[edit]

I don't have any definite information to offer here but perhaps someone else can help. I flew from Edinburgh to Paris Le Bourget, from the old terminal, in the early 70s which calls into question the lack of international links in the 80s. My recollection is that there were a wider variety of them and charter flights as well. I remember flying to Milan in the late 70s, as a flight-only pasenger on a charter plane.

It would be nice to have a photo of the old terminal which was designed, I think, by Sir Basil Spence or Sir Robert Matthew. Sadly, it seems to have been demolished. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.53.3.153 (talk) 17:36, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

As well as the regular charter flights to Scandanavia in the 1960s and 70s, Iberia ran a Saturday night scheduled service to Barcelona using a Caravelle for a number of months before the service was abandoned during the fuel crisis of 1974. In addition, Channel Airways operated a Trident on charter flights to Ibiza/Palma. The outgoing flight had to be routed through Newcastle for a fuel top up as the 13/31 runway length precluded operation of a fully laden and fully fuelled Trident. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.36.93.176 (talk) 16:31, 29 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Images[edit]

The addition by User:Futurepilot1999 of a couple of there own images has been challenged and they need to get a consensus to add them. The easyjet and cityflyer are not straight and could have been taken anywhere and again the Qatar 787 could be anywhere. This is an article on the airport so the images should really relate to the airport. If you dont get any support for adding these then they will be removed again, thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 08:56, 17 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with MilborneOne, these images do not add anything to the article and could have been taken anywhere. The article is about the airport and not a plane spotters guide. Regards, David J Johnson (talk) 10:30, 17 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with the above, this is a encyclopedia. There are plenty of websites like airliners.net, Planespotters, Flickr etc. where photos can be uploaded. Best regards, Vg31-irl (talk) 13:11, 17 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree completely, these pictures (I took myself) are of the airport and the aircraft that land and take-off there everyday. Instead of just the words providing the information, the pictures add more variety, and show things that cannot be described well by words. E.g. the aircraft at the gate etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Futurepilot1999 (talk • contribs) 20:49, 17 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Please accept the fact that editors have not agreed with your stance and if you continue to revert and insert your pics, you will be blocked from editing. Thank you, David J Johnson (talk) 21:15, 17 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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focus city/base[edit]

There has been a dispute on whether or not low-cost carriers like Jet2.com, Ryanair, etc. should be listed as a focus city since these airlines have a "base" here meaning that they either base flight crew, maintenance, or aircraft at this airport but some people are treating this as the same as "focus city". We need suggestions on whether or not that we should list them as focus cities. 97.85.118.142 (talk) 06:14, 9 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A focus-city is more like a mini-hub (e.g. SWISS at Geneva). If every airline that has a base at airports is listed some large airports will have ridiculously long lists. VG31 18:34, 9 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Location[edit]

I think the location in the infobox should include the airports specific location within Edinburgh (Ingliston) e.g. Ingliston, Edinburgh, Scotland, rather than just Edinburgh, Scotland. 86.142.97.40 (talk) 16:49, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Dont think it is needed in the infobox, it is already mentioned in the article lead, which is sufficient. MilborneOne (talk) 22:28, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Accidents and Incidents[edit]

I see that my input about the G-APEE fatal accident on a Turnhouse to Heathrow flight and the fatal accident involving G-OHOT on a Edinburgh-Coventry freight flight have both been deleted as "not being at the airport, on approach or on departure". I would dispute this deletion as certainly the G-APEE accident involving considerable loss of life was a very significant event in the Turnhouse airport's history. I remember that BEA brought the bodies back in a cargo Argosy, the only time that BEA operated an Argosy into Turnhouse. It could be argues that the Short 360 accident could equally be deleted as not being at, on approach or on departure

Kylie Ramone (talk) 13:53, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No - you would need to come up with a very good argument and evidence to support the inclusion of these accidents here, simply being a point of departure is far from being significant enough. Andrewgprout (talk) 02:15, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The accident involving G-APEE was extremely significant at that time as it was the total loss of an aircraft with the deaths of 36 passengers and crew "It was also the first crash involving a Vickers Vanguard - a plane with a good safety record - and the first major incident involving Edinburgh's Turnhouse Airport. It made headlines around the world." [1]

Remember, at that time wide bodied passenger aircraft were still some years away from being in service so an aircraft capable of carrying some 130 passengers was at that time deemed to be a relatively "large" aircraft and the total loss of one was significant, it being some years before G-APEC crashed in Belgium due to corrosion around the rear toilet and the crash of the Invicta Vanguard in Switzerland.

The passenger list included many people from Edinburgh flying south on the late night flight, so again, it was a significant event to Edinburgh and Turnhouse Airport

Kylie Ramone (talk) 12:27, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle-2-15039/night-the-sky-turned-to-flames-1-967404

2022 route changes[edit]

To avoid edit conflicts of cancelled routes, they can be added to the talk page.

Virgin Atlantic have cancelled Barbados. Source: https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/air/virgin-atlantic-axes-plans-for-edinburgh-barbados-winter-service

Hub for Delta?[edit]

Anyone if this is true? Jz0610 (talk) 16:18, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 5 July 2023[edit]

easyjet

Hurghada (Begins 6th November 2023)

“”Seasonal”” Rovaniemi (Begins 3rd December 2023) 92.40.194.39 (talk) 00:00, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Xan747 (talk) 00:20, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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