Talk:Education in Turkey/Archive 1

Archive 1

Comment

This article is far from being realistic

---

Conflicting information: "There are around 820 higher education institutions including universities with a total student enrollment of over 1 million. Major universities are located in Istanbul and Ankara. Tertiary education is the responsibility of the Higher Education Council, and funding is provided by the state for public institutions that make up the bulk of the tertiary education system. There are 118 universities in Turkey, which are classified as either public or foundational (private) and 373,353 students were graduated from these universities in 2006." Are there "around 820" or 118 institutions? 207.188.221.66 (talk) 15:23, 28 February 2008 (UTC)Phil

Comment

This page seems to have been sabotaged — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.1.230.159 (talk) 08:59, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Dates of the school year

Greetings all. The page Academic term lists countries by the date/extent of the school year. North America, Europe, Asia, and Oceania are almost exclusively represented on the list. This country has not yet been added onto the page. Would anyone be able to pop over, and give it a quick edit? Thanks, samwaltz 22:32, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Basic academic semester information for Turkey has been added on the page Academic term on 04:37, 22 September 2012 (UTC) Noremacea (talk) 04:38, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Thorough Makeover Proposed

This article hardly meets Wikipedia quality standards. There is an abundance of subjective (and casual) observation, and very little references. The naming is poor, and causes considerable confusion. I want to make some changes, but I thought I'd post first and see if I get any feedback. Bilge Han (talk) 04:19, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Structure and Naming

The standard classification of education institutions in Turkey are as follows: İlkokul (Primary School) and Ortaokul (Middle School) make up İlköğretim (Elementary Education); various institutions such as Devlet Lisesi (State Highschools, Anadolu Lisesi (Anatolian Highschools), Meslek Lisesi (Vocational Highschools), İmam-Hatip Lisesi (Highschools giving religious education), Kolejler ("Colleges," meaning foreign and sometimes private highschool) make up Ortaöğretim (Intermediate Education); finally Universitses make up Yüksek Öğretim (Higher Education). Many other educational institutions are also subject to the Ministry of National Education, and they should also be included in the article (though I'm not sure how much I can help with that).

(Note on Kolejler above: these institutions are, technically, not "foreign" and are entirely subject to the ministry, but they do , in accordance to the Treaty of Lausanne, have a different status.) Bilge Han (talk) 04:19, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Examination

There is hardly any information at all regarding the changed "Intermediate Education" and "Higher Education" entrance examinations (OKS and ÖSS respectively) on Wikipedia. This article should at least mention these changes and properly link to respective (and, hopefully, up-to-date) articles that elaborate. Bilge Han (talk) 04:20, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Referencing

For the bureaucratic structure, organization and so forth, the Ministry is probably the best source, but reliabl' sources regarding the quality of education, criticism etc. must be found. Recommendations or experts' opinions always welcome. Bilge Han (talk) 04:20, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Try sourcing CUMHURİYET DÖNEMİ EĞİTİM TARİHİMİZDE III. MİLLİ EĞİTİM ŞÛRASI VE UYGULAMALARI (2 – 10 ARALIK 1946) to create a History section. --Adoniscik^{(t, c)} 21:28, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

4+4+4?

Added "out of date" as it says primary school 5 and middle school 3 years. They are now 4 each - is that right? If so please edit and remove "out of date" from top. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jzlcdh (talk • contribs) 11:59, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Well, it seems that the factual accuracy of the article is not always given. Sources are missing as well. I found an official source (with many sub-pages all in English). You can find it by going to http://www.meb.gov.tr/english/indexeng.htm and then click on NATIONAL EDUCATION AT THE BEGINNING OF 2002. This is, of course, just the official sight of things at the beginning of 2002, but it reflects major changes done in 1997. It could be a good start to give the page a better shape. I would be grateful, if others could contribute with more critical sources. For a beginning I shall start to make a section "History". Sc.helm (talk) 16:47, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

National curriculum?

Is there one? I find the MEB website hard to follow. If so could you put a link to it? Jzlcdh (talk) 18:08, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Guest native speakers - what happened?

I presume the idea of bring the 40000 mentioned was scrapped - but why? Money reasons? Jzlcdh (talk) 18:11, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Results of Fatih pilot?

Where can we find the results of the Fatih project pilot? Jzlcdh (talk) 18:13, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Education in Turkey. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20151015214513/http://www.educationinturkey.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=69&Itemid=75 to http://www.educationinturkey.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=69&Itemid=75

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 18 January 2022).

• If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
• If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 19:18, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

Dismissing of teachers and academics

In September 2016 11`285 teachers have been dismissed for allegedly supporting Kurdish separatists. Also 5800 academics have been dismissed since the attempted coup.

There are more sources for it or course.

I think this is important to show in this article. Also why they were dismissed. Does someone have an idea how to include this in this article? Cheers, Lean Anael (talk) 21:52, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

References

Length of primary school

It says that primary school lasts four years, but is directed at children 6-14 (i.e. a range of eight years). How is that possible? Could some one explain? Thanks! 69.173.127.108 (talk) 21:52, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

In Turkey:

İlkokul: grade 1-4 Ortaokul: grade 5-8 Lise: grade 9-12

İlkokul and Ortaokul are colletively known as "İlköğretim".

Probably primary school is being used to refer to both "ilkokul" and "ilköğretim" which causes ambiguity. Best regards.--V. E. (talk) 02:09, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

You can see this official document for a full list of terms: https://sgb.meb.gov.tr/meb_iys_dosyalar/2016_03/30044345_meb_istatistikleri_orgun_egitim_2015_2016.pdf --V. E. (talk) 02:22, 22 July 2021 (UTC)