Talk:Ehrenfried Pfeiffer

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Question to Redecke[edit]

Removing links to source articles

You have removed links to source articles in your recent edit. Is it not important to attribute facts to their sources? Jean Yeager 21:36, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Jwyeager ! I removed only a single link (added several times) to an off-line website. Redecke 23:07, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

link is up again this evening, i restored the link. But imho: we need that link only once at the end. Redecke 23:56, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

language[edit]

you need to improve this passage:

Then in 1940, the Nazis smashed through Holland, and Pfeiffer, his wife, son and daughter took to the road as refugees. They travelled across southern France and crossed into Spain by way of the Pyrenees, and flew from there into Portugal. On an October day in 1940, they arrived in New York with a few bags and $50 in cash.

trueblood 21:09, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

hello Trueblood ! these sentences are from user Jwyeager. He is native english speaking. I think he copied the sentences from the webpage he introduced. my own edits (I am german) were checked by Hob Gadling as he speaks english much better than i do. the story itself is correct. I think we may shorten the passage a bit. michael Redecke 22:23, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Major revision[edit]

I have added a lot of facts and references but I am proposing to remove the paragraph that has all of the unreferenced statements:

The method has proven that there are more such life-forces in biodynamically grown food.[citation needed] The method demands much practice — Pfeiffer wrote, about eight years of looking at and meditating about the images which the crystals produce.[citation needed] The life forces are not testable through other scientifical methods, as there is no ordinary chemical analysis which would reveal the presence of life forces.[citation needed]

I would appreciate comments from anyone. Are there any acceptable references to support these statements? If there are no objections, I will also remove the Unreferenced tag. Merci bien, EPadmirateur 23:39, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I went ahead and deleted the unreferenced paragraph and tag. The statements seemed very unsubstantiated, and the previous paragraph discussed the "life forces" in a much more NPOV way. Thanks. Henitsirk 02:53, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks, Henitsirk. To be honest, I had forgotten I left this unfinished work in the article. --EPadmirateur 18:44, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am not absolutely sure of the above statements but I returned last month from a conference about "picture forming methods" in quality analysis. There were several researchers there who are working with validating either Pfeiffer's original technique or new techniques like "Drop Evaporation Method". I was impressed by two things in the researchers- the willingness to entertain an open mind towards undiscovered methods in science, and the willingness to apply vigorous statistical analysis to their pictures. There are several studies that seem more NPOV to me- and one review article I can't access. There is apparently in Europe a "triangle group" of 3 universities who have built Pfeiffer chambers to high precision and exact dimensions and perform experiments in tandem (I can't find any reference to this though). I am a wikipedia newbie but with a little experience and some articles I plan on creating a page on these methods as they are fascinating to me, and quite beautiful. Interpretation is a more difficult matter.Chickpecking (talk) 15:08, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Pfeiffer, Steiner and stage lighting at the Goetheanum[edit]

Pfeiffer met Steiner first in december 1919, at the age of 20. He was then a student and worked (as Werkstudent=working student) at Bosch company in Germany. He had first some difficulties to settle and to study in switzerland (burocracy of that time). But he could continue his university studies in Dornach/switzerland. He worked at the first Goetheanum in his free time and got 300 swiss francs for his his student-job there. He made and installed a simple and cheap (Steiner wanted it) stage lighting system for the Bretterbühne in the joinery of the first Goetheanum and later of the stage of the Goetheanum. He did it strictly according to 700 advices by Steiner, and Pfeiffer wrote them down in two books. Pfeiffer was the person who was able to control the lighting system. It was intended to imitate day-light but also to offer different colors for lighting. Thats the story. Redecke 21:39, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Redecke, for the additional information! I think what we are saying in the article is accurate: Pfeiffer worked with Steiner in 1920 to develop and install special diffuse stage lighting for eurythmy performances on the stage of the first Goetheanum. --EPadmirateur 23:40, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]