Talk:Eleanor of Lancaster

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Date of birth[edit]

The year of Eleanor's birth was changed from 1311 to 1318. Why was the year changed? Can someone please provide evidence to support the new date? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlwynJPie (talk • contribs) 13:30, 4 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Distinction needs to be made: Not a "tomb" but a "memorial"[edit]

The poem refers to the effigy figures as a "tomb", but the effigy figures are a "memorial", not a "tomb". When the article refers specifically to the title of the poem, the word "tomb" must be used; however, the word "memorial" is more accurate when referring specifically to the stone effigies. We cannot even be certain that the stone effigy figures are Richard FitzAlan, 10th Earl of Arundel, and his wife Eleanor of Lancaster.

These pictures are not of a "tomb", but a "memorial". Richard FitzAlan, 10th Earl of Arundel, and his wife Katherine Mortimer were not buried at Chichester Cathedral. They are buried at Lewes Priory. I contacted Chichester Cathedral to clear up the confusion. (I had a source that cited Richard's will, stating burial at L)ewes. Then there are these pictures and Wikipedia articles that show the Chichester effigies as being a "tomb".) Below is the text of the email I received from Canon Dr Anthony Cane, Chancellor, Chichester Cathedral; Sent: 30 July 2014 10:46, via the Chichester Cathedral Education Officer.

"The Cathedral was severely damaged during the English Civil War. In the nineteenth century the Cathedral had a number of monuments that had been vandalised or were badly decayed, and not necessarily in their original positions. In 1843 the Dean and Chapter decided to have the ‘Arundel tomb’ restored. The mutilated figures had been lying on tables against the north wall of the north aisle for two centuries. They were then moved to their present position and restored. This, I suggest, makes it most unlikely that there is any burial material there. In any case, we do not know for certain who the figures are, as there is no contemporary attribution. The date and features of the tomb make the attribution plausible, but not certain.

Canon Dr Anthony Cane

Chancellor, Chichester Cathedral"

--Ninanta (talk) 21:24, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]