Talk:Elections in Hungary

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In the Local elections section, I've added a link through to where detailed information about the outcome of the last local elections is given in the Wikipedia entry on the 2006 riots.

Thats a bit of an improvised solution. An alternative could be to make the section on the 2006 local elections in that entry into a Wikipedia entry of its own, so it can be linked to both from there and from here. See also the talk page there.

Also, if the "Local elections" section here had not been an empty stub, I would have included the link I added in the section "Latest elections" instead. But until someone writes some general info about local elections in Hungary, I thought it might be better to have this link in the "Local elections" section rather than nothing at all.

No-itsme 16:38, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

User Kissl followed up on above observation by moving the information about the outcome of the last local elections from the 2006 riots entry to this page. I've now streamlined that text a bit, as its wording still reflected the context of the entry it was originally in. No-itsme 16:29, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"admitted lying"[edit]

The sentence about Mr. Gyurcsany "admitted lying" may be misinterpreted as he would have admitted of lying by himself while in reality his speech was about the mishandling of the events by MSZP. And even that is interpreted widely, so the sentence in the article maybe needs repair (beyond my time and involvement in this topic), because it's right now slightly (or not so slightly) Fidesz-POV. But it is a fact that it was the center of the Fidesz propaganda all along (and it still is; which doesn't imply that they aren't correct [but I believe that they did and will do the same, but this is irrelevant regarding this article]).

And I am not sure this information belongs here at all. It's just too recent and still a heavy heated topic in Hungary, while this article is supposed to be an objective view of the electional process, and not its actual and latest results. --grin 12:40, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

New seat allocation in 2010?[edit]

I don't think the information given about the election system is still valid.Unfortunately I don't speak Hungarian. So I cannot verify it.

As ist seems in 2010 146 members are elected in multi-seat constituencies and 64 seats are compensation seats. The present article gives the figures of 152 and 58 respectively. The new represetation is showed here: http://www.ipu.org/parline/reports/2141_B.htm. Also the article Hungarian parliamentary election, 2010 has these numbers. Is that due to a specific result this time. Or has there been a permanent change? --92.229.116.147 (talk) 17:31, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There were no changes, so far. This is the natural result of the system, as the mandates aren't a fixed number, but related to, for example, the number of parties reaching the 5% threshold. --grin 12:45, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I get why the 58 national compensation seats can't be assigned yet, but why were only 146 of the regional seats allocated after the first round and not all 152? Was there one or two counties were turnout was too low to be valid? Or is it something to do with the proportional representation formulae somehow taking into account the single seat wins (and therefore the 146 is somehow the mathematical minimum won)? Gecko G (talk) 23:22, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have to confess I do not have the time to do the detailed maths for you. The summarised results are on this page, which tells that there were no districts which didn't reach 50%, so all turnout has been valid. However I guess it's closely related to people and lists not getting the minimum amount of votes in the first round, so their votes going into the pool somehow. I'll let others to detail the results, it would be interesting - and very educational - to see the exact maths anyway.
Quote from huwiki (translated): "...minimum 52 mandates and maximum 152 seats..." Maybe enwiki's text isn't precise. No time to check now.
Ok, more info. Mandates come from the national lists while seats from the local ones. So I guess when a party doesn't get the local minimum its seat isn't allocated. Since mandates are collected from countrywise lists it's always possible to pick at least 52 (still I wonder what would happen if both rounds were below turnout minimum, hmm). And I'm not sure these numbers have to be matched at the first round. --grin 07:23, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe we'll be able to make more sense of it after seeing the results from the second round. Gecko G (talk) 08:02, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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