Talk:Elizabeth Kīnaʻu

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Elizabeth Peleuli[edit]

I remove the part about her daughter Elizabeth Peleuli because I doubt the accuracy of the info. I am sure Kamakau never mention this person in his book. I haven't read the entire book so I might be wrong. Could you please verify the page you are referencing of Kamakau's book and James Jackson Jarves' book that mentions Elizabeth Peleuli? There was a Miriam Elizabeth Peleuli Crowningburg, a granddaughter of the American settler Isaac James Crowningburg but I don't think Kinau ever had a daughter by Kahalaia Luanuu.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 23:45, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Why am I not surprised that you didn't read the entire book? I have many of his books including in Hawaiian and can easily refer to the actual newspaper clippings that easily. But then again this should be easy for me considering how many decades I've spent going through all these sources. Kinau had a son with Kahalaia, according to Papa I'i who was raised in the court of Kamehameha II being an aikane to him. Mamoahina (talk) 12:56, 6 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Kahalaiʻa Luanuʻu - not a recognized husband[edit]

Recognized by who? Samuel Kamakau's Ruling Chiefs of Hawaii specifically states Kahalaiʻa Luanuʻu married her and had a child with her before he died. He also differentiate between when Kamehameha II left his wives in his care vs when news of his death prompting him to take Kīnaʻu as wife and give Pauahi to Kekūanāoʻa as wife. "When the boat arrived, Pauahi and Kinaʻu were still with Kahala-iʻa. Ke-ku-anaoʻa had a wife, Ka-lehua by name, who had been his from the time of Kamehameha and he had a son by her named Paʻa-lua who was perhaps his own child. Wise indeed was this choice of the traveler over seas. Within a few years Pauahi became the wife of Keku-anaoʻa, and Kinaʻu of Kahala-iʻa." Also primary source from American missionary Levi Chamberlain states they married on March 22, 1826[1], "At the close of the services this afternoon Kahalaia & Kinau were united in the bands of Christian marriage." KAVEBEAR (talk) 04:36, 30 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Removed this sentence from the article because the first cited source doesn't mention Kinau or Kahalaia and the second source is a broken link. Ruling Chiefs only mentions one child who died with his father.

"She had two children, one who was adopted by another high-ranking chiefly family ref">Kamakau, Samuel (April 13, 1867). "Ka Moolelo o Kamehameha I". Ka Nupepa Kuakoa. Retrieved May 6, 2012.</ref ref>Ke Kumu Hawaiʻi newspaper. Buke 3, Pepa 6, Aoao 21. Augate 16, 1837. (August 16, 1837): p. 21</ref"