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Elmo has no friends
elmo has no freinds michael henry is the voice of elmos sister and his entire family he created it and his phone number is 602-469-7360 I am almost 100% positive that Zoe is Elmo's sister (I was watching Sesame Street when Elmo was first introduced, and Zoe was introduced (a little later) as his sister. (Yes, I was well outside the target age group at the time!)) --Canuckguy 18:24, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
- The first time I heard of her, someone told me she was his girlfriend, but I've never heard that confirmed on the show. --JimmyTheWig 13:26, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
- Elmo's parents have been shown in some episodes; they are both red with orange noses and look exactly like Elmo. I think Zoe is not related to Elmo; they are just friends.
- The book "Elmo's first babysitter" depicts Elmo's dad like Elmo (red, orange nose, etc.), but his mom looks like Zoe. Jj buster 17:10, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- She isn't his girlfriend, because Elmo is about three and a half years old, and three-year-olds don't have girlfriends. They are just playmates. -- Dominus 13:47, 10 October 2005 (UTC)--63.228.190.64 (talk) 17:26, 31 January 2012 (UTC)Elmo is a vampire", but among the Muppets, only Count von Count has truely dated anyone. Cookie also "dated" a girl Muppet for a few skits two or three seasons ago. -- user:zanimum
- I've never heard of zoe being related to elmo.
Really? Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think there was ever any solid evidence that Zoe and Elmo were going out and I’m pretty sure they’re not boyfriend/girlfriend. I agree with zanimum. The fact that they are seen together often does not mean they are related or have a romantic relationship. They are just playmates and good friends. Besides, Elmo doesn’t have the brains to go out. He’s a puppet :) Please don’t be offended, that’s just my opinion. ^_^; DebbieLin 19:23, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Effect of Elmo on Sesame Street
This was tagged for NPOV violations by another user, and changed to POV/Unreferenced by me. I've read over the section, and I don't think it can be salvaged. Unless somebody can completely rewrite it to be neutral, and correctly site sources, I'm going to remove it entirely in a week or so. Does anybody disagree with this course of action? -- MisterHand 18:20, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- There have been no objections for a week, so I've removed the section. If somebody wants to go back in history and salvage any of it, be my guest...but let's try to source it and keep it neutral. -- MisterHand 16:24, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
- I agree with you; I think it was unsalvageable. It seems to me that this discussion has come up before, and that it was removed once before too; I don't know why it was put back. -- Dominus 18:41, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
John Tartaglia ?
Why does this say he's the back up Elmo, when Kevin still performs the character full time ?
And if they were going to get an alternate, I think Eric Jacobson would make better Elmo, but thats just my opinion.
Also does anyone know what Richard Hunt's Elmo sounded like ? 4.229.39.118 22:50, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
- I've asked at Muppet Wikia. -- Zanimum 18:55, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Left handed?
The article states "Elmo appears to be left-handed, because he uses that "paw" to draw with his crayon and operate his computer mouse." In the Sesame street episode "Telly Learns the Grouchketeer Cheer," he is using his right "paw" to control the mouse. We watch Sesame street with our niece, so I'll keep an eye out, but I'd like to know where others have seen him use his left paw to control the mouse. Gh5046 18:54, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
- In watching two more episodes I see Elmo using both his left and right hands to use the computer mouse. In the episode "Little Furry Red Monster Parade" he uses his right hand. In the episode "Gabi gets sidetracked helping friends" the computer mouse hops from side-to-side of the keyboard before settling on the left, making him use his left hand to control it. If there isn't any objections I'll change the main article to read "and, at times, his computer mouse." Gh5046 21:06, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Tickle Me Elmo parody
I added a line in the Elmo in Pop Culture about Mad TV's parody with a Tickle Me Emo doll. Berserkerz Crit 21:20, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
- I removed it. Please look at edit summaries before re-adding information previously removed. —scarecroe 00:04, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
- Oh sorry. ^^ Berserkerz Crit 15:30, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
Interesting stuff
"..His parents, according to the Birthday segment of Elmo's World, are named George and Gladys.."
I didn't know that... :)
- That was actually just a dream in his pet goldfish's imagination. Elmo's parents have since been seen in various projects with his dad named Louie. —scarecroe 01:02, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
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This article seems to get an unusually large amount of vandalism. I wonder if it should be semi-protected? -- Dominus 21:47, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
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Googly Eyes
I do not think that it is correct to say that Elmo has "Googly Eyes." The article for "Googly Eyes" says that googly eyes have pupils that move around. Thus Cookie Monster had googly eyes, because his pupils move around when he moves, but Elmo does not, because Elmo's pupils remain fixed at all times. Thank you. 12.1.55.173 (talk) 21:05, 28 January 2008 (UTC) clippercfx
Elmo-nster
I am wondering under what grounds Elmo has been Categorised as a 'Fictional Monster', sure that obsession with tickling is unnerving, but I don't think it constitutes such a harsh label. Any one disagree, or shall I remove the tag? Dutpar (talk) 09:31, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
- Elmo has often been referred to as Elmo Monster on Sesame Street episodes and books. Although I can't provide a specific source right now, this is the best evidence I can pull off the top of my head In 2005 In N EPISODE OF SEASME STREET it is said that elmo attemped to strangle cookie moster. It cause cookie monster to have permannt brain damage.: We Are All Monsters. —scarecroe (talk) 17:01, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
- It is extremely well-established in Sesame Street canon that Elmo is a "monster"; he refers to himself as such.
- Sesame Street has had "monster" characters since the very beginning. See Cookie Monster, Telly Monster, or Herry Monster for example. Or Grover: "Grover describes himself as a "cute, furry, adorable monster." -- Dominus (talk) 17:09, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
- [1] says "Two very special toddlers are tops in talk show superstar Rosie O'Donnell's life: her son, Parker, and her favorite Sesame Street monster, Elmo." [2] says "Telly, Herry, Cookie, Elmo, and many of the other Sesame Street monsters are not scary!" I could go on, but these should be sufficient to establish the point. -- Dominus (talk) 17:12, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
- From the official Season 37 Press Kit: "Elmo is a 3 ½-year-old red monster". -- Dominus (talk) 17:14, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Yeah I guess that's fair enough. It's just whilst I wouldn't disagree with Barney being a 'Fictional Dinosaur', I kind of felt that monster is a definition that should apply as much to the actions as well as the appearance - for which cute cuddly self-proclaimed 'monsters' with no greater monstrous acts than scoffing cookies doesn't really fit; but I'm happy for it to just be me on that one! Dutpar (talk) 08:06, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
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Please change the dead link located in the References section: 5. ^ "Why does Elmo refer to himself in the third person? Won't this teach kids improper English? (LOGIN REQUIRED)". Frequently Asked Questions. Sesame Workshop. To the correct link: Sesame Frequently Asked Questions Also, a login is NOT required to access this page. |
Parents
Louie and Elmo's mom are the parents in the Sesame street, not shown before 2006. Maybe, someone can put that in an article (protected for non-established users like me). --217.189.252.126 (talk) 10:12, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Elmo's Speech
The article says that Elmo "characteristically refers to himself in the third person.". It seems like it's more than that. It's not an absolute rule, but Elmo tends to avoid the use of pronouns in general, (personal pronouns especially.) Sometimes resorting to somewhat awkward phrasing to avoid referring to someone as "him" or "her".
You first notice it when he refers to himself as "Elmo" instead of "Me", but if you listen for a while you'll notice that the only personal pronoun he uses on a regular basis is "you" when he's referring to the audience.
I'm mentioning this in the talk page because I don't know how to say that in a concise manner. -- APL 22:26, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
He refers to the First and Second Person as Third...--FlareNUKE 12:09, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
- I agree with APL. If someone says "George went to the store" whether "George" refers to a first, second, or third person is unknown. If George is the speaker, it is the 1st person; if the person spoken to, the 2nd; if someone else, the 3rd. Avoiding pronouns isn't necessarily the same as using the 3rd person exclusively. 206.53.196.60 (talk) 22:30, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Third person pronouns
The article recently said:
- Some people believe that Elmo's characteristic of referring to himself and others in the third person...
An editor recently removed "and others", saying in the edit summary "You're *supposed* to refer to others in the third person)". One normally refers to others in either the second or the third person. The point of "and others" was that Elmo refers to others in the third person even when standard English would have him refer to them in the second person.
I think the meaning was clear and correct in the original phrasing, so I have reverted the change. —Dominus (talk) 15:54, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
Elmos Parents - George & Gladys
Could someone pleas put this in. I can't remember it myself and would like to be able to referece it. It is from the Birthday's Episode of Elmos world First shown sometime in the fall of 2009. Where they show Elmos Birth
Father - George Mother - Gladys
Thanks. Seth —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.102.118.148 (talk) 14:21, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- That is non-canonical: it wasn't presented as part of Elmo's real world, but rather as something that Dorothy was imagining.
- Kevin Clash's parents are named George and Gladys, though. —Dominus (talk) 15:09, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
First Appearance
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International
Elmo's name on Egyptian Sesame Street, Alam Simsim, is Tohfa. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Angelamurock (talk • contribs)
- Elmo appears to have several other names in different countries; for example, in the South African version he's called Neno (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takalani_Sesame). If anyone has further details of the characters psuedonyms could be a worthy addition? Pledger166 (talk) 02:08, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
Tickle-Me-Elmo
Tickle-Me-Elmo was first introduced in 1996 and became that year's top fad. In 1996 the Tickle-Me-Elmo was the must-have toy. Parents went to stores and actually fought other parents to get their kids a Tickle-Me-Elmo toy. You can buy the TMX Elmo toy at Amazon or Google. If you want to buy it in stores you can find it at your local Wal-Mart or Toys'R'Us. Over 5 million toys were sold between 1996 and 1997. In 1996 two employees were fired for hiding dolls because they wanted to buy them for themselves. 300 people lined up outside a Wal-Mart in Texas five hous before the store actually opened. The people then stampeded through the doors and attacked an employee seriously injuring him and sending him to the hospital. References: [3]
[4] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.221.146.2 (talk) 15:20, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Tickle_Me_Elmo
http://www.cnn.com/EVENTS/1996/year.in.review/talk/elmo/elmo.html
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{{editsemiprotected}} In the "Criticism" section it should be noted that Elmo has been portrayed as a drug abuser by YouTube member edbassmaster. In a video, Elmo was seen on the phone with a pharmacy asking what he should do about taking a surplus of "vitamins" that were giving him LSD-like symptoms. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxwkyKV8PU4 UniverseTwister (talk) 01:30, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
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Characteristics
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Do we need to have the statement "with large white eyes and an orange nose". It clearly relates to a generic muppet (but not all of course) so I do not think it is necessary to state this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trainfan01 (talk • contribs) 02:07, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
Thats what I said above (in the brackets). trainfan01 8:40, August 7, 2010 (UTC)
Well, it is very similar. All the other Muppet articles have not been written to include things like this. That is why I find it unnecessary. It is also original research. trainfan01 7:08, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
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Article on Elmo-costumed man stopping a roudy customer
Because Elmo is very recognizable and appears in various settings, should there be an article or section titled, "Elmo in Popular Culture" with articles such as the one below?
Man attacks Elmo; Elmo wins, CNN, 9/28/2010
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I definately think so as we have done that on articles for some other Sesame Street characters such as Cookie Monster and Oscar. trainfan01 talk 20:46, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
Good source
I found this article [5], which is really a series of articles, focusing on Elmo and other aspects of Sesame Street. I put it here for anyone's future use. Excuse me for stating the obvious, but this article needs some good sources and would benefit from a complete overhaul. There has been a huge amount written about Elmo and Clash, so it'd be easy to research. I have other good sources to recommend, so if anyone wanted to tackle this article before I got around to it myself, please let me know and I'll assist. Christine (talk) 12:54, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
Criticism
I've heard a lot of people say that Elmo "dumbs down" SS and doesn't teach anything, unlike the other established characters, someone should put that in.--Rotten 22:27, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
- Can you back that up with published reports? —scarecroe 00:49, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Elmo is a show for toddlers. He is like a teacher that teaches toddlers to count and read. Over the years that I have been growing up he is a proud inspiration to me and my family. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.90.77.155 (talk) 23:54, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Edit Request: Removal of Fear and Sanity Rally Picture
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The picture at the bottom of the article doesn't make sense in the context of the article. It doesn't relate to any text in the article, and appears to only jokingly be criticising Elmo. It doesn't belong here. 124.185.236.230 (talk) 13:15, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
- I agree. I have removed the picture. Thanks! —Mark Dominus (talk) 13:43, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
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elmo is not a muppet, he is a character on sesame street, these are known as 'monster's. The muppets are an entireley different puppet childs show
82.39.122.113 (talk) 15:46, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
- Characters on Sesame Street are also called Muppets, you can check this not only on the pages for them here but at the official site --Jnorton7558 (talk) 16:08, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
Controversy Section
The following statement needs a citation:
- Many longtime Sesame Street fans from the 1970s have been unhappy with the promotion of Elmo as a lead character. Many feel that Elmo has been promoted at the expense of longtime Sesame Street characters.
Thanks. -- MisterHand 16:05, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
- Looks like an anti-Elmo person from his POV. The editor needs to cite his/her sources like said above. --Terence Ong 16:12, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
You are incorrect that this is POV, but I can see where you may have come up with this. I have no opinion one way or another on Elmo. However, I am a parent and this topic has come up enough times in discussion about this exact topic. Word of mouth is enough of a reference here, but certainly any written citations will be added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wac01 (talk • contribs)
- Unfortunately, word of mouth is not an acceptable source for Wikipedia articles, so we will need some sort of verifiable source here. --MisterHand 18:33, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
I think the comment above was clearly stated that is opinion and not fact. Whether it is written correctly or not can be debated. Perhaps it needs to be worded better or stated as opinion. I would agree the citation would not be necessary under these circumstances. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.33.1.37 (talk • contribs)
- Wikipedia is not an op-ed page. While articles can (and do) report the (verifiable) opinions of experts, the opinions of editors do not belong here. See WP:NPOV and WP:CITE. I hope this makes sense. -- MisterHand 21:52, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
I see MisterHand's point. I'm going to put up some sources. So far, I've found a couple of fansites - but am actively looking through some periodicals. --Wac01
- Is the source reliable? Fansites are not reliable, they are not NPOV. NPOV is an offical policy of Wikipedia and is one of the five pillars of Wikipedia. Please keep that in mind. Thanks. --Terence Ong 07:59, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
That's why I didn't post the fan sites as references. --Wac01
I've removed the paragraph for now, until we have a source. -- MisterHand 18:36, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
In the trivia section, the statement ""Weird Al" Yankovic used Elmo in his unreleased parody, "Elmo's Got A Gun", which is a parody of "Janie's Got a Gun" by Aerosmith, using Sesame Street-related lyrics to the song." is in correct. Weird Al has never recorded a song called "Elmo's Got A Gun. It was another parody band, I do not know there name. But Weird Al did not sing that song. ^The above poster is right. I took out the statement.
- According to the wikipedia article Janie's_Got_a_Gun, the version was recorded by Tommy & Rumble It's certainly isn't a Weird Al track. It could possibly added back in.- Gorilla (talk) 04:27, 7 January 2012 (UTC) Elmo had inner corse with Abby in 2011 and he got pregnant, and kept it a secret and eventually gave birth and put the baby up for adoption. ABI G. :)
Kevin Clash: Financial Compensation
Anybody know an accurate estimate what Kevin Clash has been able to earn from doing Elmo? Marc S., Dania fl206.192.35.125 (talk) 17:32, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
Dead Links
Links 6 and 7 are dead. Link 6 no longer works on archive due to changes in the robots.txt and link 7 wasn't loading on archive. Artsygeek (talk) 16:08, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
Edit request from 4/22/2012
Jerry Nelson was one of Elmo's performers, but he is not listed on the page at all. He should be added in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.146.88.151 (talk) 04:35, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
- Added to the prose, but anyone before Muehl performed him as "Baby Monster". Baby was never named on screen, as he never had any lines. They're beyond insignificant, within the scope of Elmo's overall existence. -- Zanimum (talk) 16:47, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
Edit request: Congress appearance
Elmo is not "the only non-human or puppet ever to testify before the U.S. Congress". When Shari Lewis testified to Congress in 1993, Lamb Chop was allowed to speak. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.216.216.1 (talk) 15:41, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
This is true, it's right on her wiki page--Brian Earl Haines (talk) 16:30, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
Done
Mistake
"Kevin Clash (1985-2012)" Excuse me, but shouldn't it be "Kevin Clash (1985-present)"? 123.2.142.50 (talk) 08:12, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
:No, he quit/was fired in the wake of the controversy of his personal life. Gaijin42 (talk) 16:34, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
Mentions in pop culture
Elmo is mentioned in the 2009 Colum McCann novel [the Great World Spin] despite the fact that the story in the novel takes place in 1974, before the little red monster became Elmo. The author explained on a March 6, 2010 message board at Librarything.com "I actually have changed the mistake for later editions, so Elmo is gone in the paperback edition and replaced with a more appropriate character from [Sesame Street] in the 70's" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trevman31 (talk • contribs) 15:19, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
Elmo: The Truth Behind the Red Menace
Elmo is not who you think he is. He is actually a long haired albino sea muppet. Also related to the seal family, the sea muppet can be very dangerous and cold blooded killers. Note his red fur. Isn't it odd that this albino sea creature has RED FUR? This is because his fur is coated with the blood of his victims. I would know, as I am a witness of his evil doings. He-- Sorry, i get a little choked up reliving the memories. He killed my youngest son right in front of me. Murdered him with his bare hands. He plucked his eyeballs out as I was strapped down... To be continued... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.162.213.240 (talk) 13:40, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Unsourced fan theory/speculation and not allowed. Post it here (if you don't already have a TVT account, get one). Your theory is great fanfic/conspiracy theory material, but inappropriate for an encyclopedia article. Hop on Bananas (talk) 23:47, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
Bad link
There is link to Tomasz Bednarek, the tennis player, not for the Tomasz Bendarek, actor. Sorry for bad English. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.28.251.241 (talk) 20:42, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Controversy section
I don't think the "Controversy" section is warranted. While the second paragraph is okay, the first one is mostly unsourced. Of the two sources there, one is a dead link and the other is a forum, and a borderline insane one at that (the show sucks because "Seventh Seal"? "Robin Williams"? "Cultural Imperialism"?) CamelCase (Talk | Contribs) 22:34, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
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I heard Elmo made an appearance on Cartoon Network's Big Bag in the episode "Elmo's Visit". Why wasn't this included. --2601:2C0:C280:1720:DDA8:4086:A6A4:CF90 (talk) 05:28, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
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Clash's info in the infobox needs to be fixed/changed, Clash resigned from the role in 2012, not 2014. Those 2014 episodes were actually Ryan Dillon that performed the character in those episodes. Even though IMDb says Clash performed him in those episodes, but sometimes IMDb's info can be wrong some times and they can't be trusted. So, the real performer in those episodes were Ryan Dillon. 174.192.32.199 (talk) 17:12, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
- Do you have a reference for Ryan Dillon? bobdog54 (talk) 17:19, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
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Who is Rafa?
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Semi-protected edit request on 18 December 2019
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He does not eat children. Please remove the sentence that says that he does. 97.84.36.130 (talk) 05:06, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- Done, vandalism removed. Thanks for pointing it out. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 14:40, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 23 December 2020
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V - Internacional puppeteer: Kelly Guidotti (From Brazil since 2016) Kelly Guidotti (talk) 22:36, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- I could not find a usable source (WP:RS) for that from a quick Google search. See also our guide for editors with a conflict of interest. – Thjarkur (talk) 22:58, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 5 February 2021
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I would like to edit the Elmo article for errors and changes made since the start of the internet. SuperRabbit2002 (talk) 17:30, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. If you meant to request additional user rights, see WP:PERM. Volteer1 (talk) 17:37, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 21 July 2021
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It appears the opening section has been vandalized. Elmo is referred to in the past tense in the first sentence; the last line of the opening paragraph indicates "He was killed along with Joe Biden by Kermit the Frog in May 2021." Unneekway (talk) 00:42, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
"Red monster" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Semi-protected edit request on 3 September 2021
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i would like to change some lines about elmo ₰₰₰₰₰₰₰₰₰₰₰₰₰₰₰₰₰₰₰ Nerghkj;vwe (talk) 18:37, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
- Not done: requests for decreases to the page protection level should be directed to the protecting admin or to Wikipedia:Requests for page protection if the protecting admin is not active or has declined the request. - FlightTime (open channel) 18:44, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
Changing Elmo's pronouns in the article
Elmo is listed as never having identifying Elmo's pronouns in the article but Elmos is listed as he/him throughout the article. He/him should be replaced by Elmo in the article.
Example:
Original: Elmo is self-described as three-and-a-half years old and his birthday is on February 3.[5] Elmo characteristically avoids pronouns in reference to himself, instead referring to himself in the third person (e.g. saying "Elmo wants this" instead of "I want this").
Example of proposed change: Elmo is self-described as three-and-a-half years old and Elmo's birthday is on February 3.[5] Elmo characteristically avoids pronouns in reference to Elmo's self, instead referring to Elmo's self in the third person (e.g. saying "Elmo wants this" instead of "I want this").
@Motest08 Elmo's Father (Louie) frequently refers to Elmo as "son". As the Sesame Street creators and writers felt it important enough to include "son" I would think it reasonable to assume he/him is an acceptable pronoun.Tepkunset (talk) 17:30, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
what about Kevin Clash's allegations?
Kevin Clash was kicked out of Elmo's role because he sexually assaulted a boy. Chunky boii (talk) 15:21, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 16 January 2022
Elmo is canadian. Sesame street is based out of Toronto. There for elmo is from CANADA. When I met elmo when I was younger I asked what country he was from and he said Canada. Please fix. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:56B:FFEE:86B0:BD3E:8488:35F3:5F37 (talk) 03:41, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
Opening Paragraph
This sentence “ A furry red monster with a falsetto voice, he has illeism, and also hosts the last full fifteen-minute segment (five minutes since 2017) on Sesame Street, "Elmo's World", which is aimed at toddlers.” needs some work. It’s not even a complete sentence, and it’s super messy. 2601:282:1F30:1E01:106B:ADE2:16E3:5513 (talk) 22:40, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- "has illeism" can probably be removed. Is it one of the most important things about him?FrankForAllAndBirds (talk) 09:25, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
Elmos grandfather
Change it back. Elmosupporter (talk) 18:25, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
Elmo attacked by Larry David / Discussion of mental health
On February 1st, Elmo came on Today to talk about mental health, and was brutally attacked by Larry David. It looks like Larry's page was updated to reflect this:
On February 1, 2024, upset with remarks made by Elmo on the subject of mental health, David approached and attacked the friendly monster live on Today.
Do y'all think it's appropriate to recognize this event on Elmo's page? Either way, his discussion of mental health concerns has received significant press coverage. I think it also speaks to how the character is endearing to many fans beyond its target audience, so this flurry of coverage may be worth a sentence. Especially given how this reflects upon the larger cultural feelings in America:
Except, after the clouds of irony and dark humor had passed, something remarkable happened: People started thanking Elmo and his pals for asking, and talking about what it means to feel safe and understood in a time when so much is dangerous and confusing. Katherine Tarleton, a licensed therapist in South Carolina, says trusted characters like Elmo create an environment of safety in which difficult conversations feel a little easier.
What do y'all think? CallMeSarge (talk) 16:06, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- I think a couple of sentences could discuss the whole event. (Oinkers42) (talk) 15:43, 6 February 2024 (UTC)