Talk:Emoji/Archives/2015/October

Irrelevant information in history section

There's a paragraph about Nicolas Loufrani making .gif emoticons in the history section. What is the relevance of this information to emojis? There's no info I can find anywhere linking Loufrani and his emoticons to emojis. So why is this on the page? Either there should be an explanation as to why this is relevant to emojis, or it should be removed. --90.201.63.117 (talk) 03:43, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Western use of term over "smiley" and "emoticon"

Before a year or so ago I had never heard the term Emoji being used. Not in the West. The term being used in the generic context was always "smiley" and/or "emoticon". Now the term is being used not only for the "official" Emoji like those illustrated in this article, but even things like ;) and :-( which used to be called smileys have started to be deemed as Emoji (especially as more forums and websites automatically translate such text strings into Emojis). I think it would be interesting to add a little paragraph about the sementics in the West; when did the term replace smiley and emoticon? Was it when the iOS use began? And is there perhaps some conflict in use; based on this article it appears "smiley" might be a proprietary name (like how Aspirin is used for general painkillers even though the name refers to one specific brand, rollerblade, kleenex, etc.) so is there any controversy over the widespread adoption of another name for these symbols? 68.146.52.234 (talk) 17:52, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

• "Smiley" isn't "proprietary", it's a generic name like "emoticon". :-) has long been referred to as a "smiley". The overlap in use between "smiley"/"emoticon" and "emoji" is new. I'd say it's an incorrect use, but as language changes, I wouldn't be surprised if this becomes a widely accepted (and therefore correct) usage of the word (much to my chagrin ;). Note that even Apple's doing this now: they described their animated 3D Apple Watch emoticons as "emoji". —ajf (talk) 18:39, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
• It is apparent to me that emoticons, smilies, and emoji are different things with similar use. Emoticons are text characters put together in a way to display emotion and are similar to ASCII art with some overlap. Smilies typically appear in programs that recognize emoticon patterns and replace the pattern with a picture that should represent the same. There has not been a good implementation of smilies BTW. Emoji much like kanji each have their own Unicode numeric value assigned. So emoji should be a key on the keyboard. Trouble is, this has not worked between manufacturers, making emoji useless and hazardous between devices. Don't use emoji with women unless you have the same emoji font. 198.2.4.2 (talk) 15:58, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

U+2xxx Code Points

Is there another term for the Unicode U+2xxx symbol-type code blocks (e.g. Miscellaneous Symbols, Dingbats, Arrows, Geometric Shapes, Enclosed Alphanumerics, …)?

Generally, what people regard as "emoji" are in the Astral Plane, rather than BMP. Emojipedia in particular limits their scope to characters with "an emoji presentation". Similarly, mobile "emoji keyboards" tend to ignore much of this range as well. This means ⓘ ★ ⚜ are not widely considered "emoji", but ℹ️ ⛔ ☕ are. — Brianary (talk) 18:18, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Long text of all emojis

• Where is a good description of the grammatical rules to use when using a long string of emoji as continuous text? (I once saw "teenageboy magicwand lightning" used to mean "Harry Potter".) Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:09, 14 October 2015 (UTC)