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Hello, there's a big paragraph in this article that describes some of the writer's favorite parts of the music. I think it's great writing and unfortunately it goes against Wikipedia:WikiProject Classical music's policy on Evaluative Passages and Wikipedia:No original research in general. While it makes up the bulk of the article right now, I nominate it for deletion on the above grounds and propose to flush out the article with better-researched and cited material.

cheers! Fred 13:14, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]


The author notes the fact that the first version was staged, privately. It seems to be the case that it was intended to stage the second, expanded version too, but that the proposal came to the notice of the Bishop of London who banned any such production. It would therefore appear that the whole genre of English oratorio came into being as a consequence. I'm not proposing an amendment (either to this or other articles) in this sense just now, but it would seem worth investigating whether, for example, this is related to Bishop Gibson's known hostility to what was described (inter alia in his Wikipedia article) as the fashion of "masquerades" among the aristocracy. Nearly all of Handel's oratorios, which since Winton Dean's research on them have been accepted to contain stage directions (Dean argues they were dramatically conceived) were written while Gibson was Bishop of London.Delahays (talk) 12:16, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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