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I've added some more historic context and additional sources, but mostly restructured this to emphasize her public life and achievements. It may be useful as editors work on other founders of Alpha Kappa Alpha.--Parkwells (talk) 18:06, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Background of college attendees among whites and blacks

"At a time when only 5% of whites attended college, she and fellow founders were even more of an elite, among the one-third of 1% of African Americans who attended any college in the early 1900s. Howard University was considered one of the top two historically black colleges. [1] The leadership of Hedgeman in establishing and guiding the sorority has continued to generate social capital."

I added this to provide the context for why these women were each achievers and remarkable in their time. It may need expansion - I think it would be useful to have other info in the article about numbers of teachers, or additional data from Ethel Hedgeman Lyle's Philadelphia years, but I think the background on the early 1900s is critical to making sense of their time and would like to have it added back or reverted.--Parkwells (talk) 20:29, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ James D. Anderson, The Education of Blacks in the South, 1860-1935. Chapel Hill: University of North Carolina Press, 1988, 245.

Normal School ???

UHM ... JUST WHAT DID THIS CONTRIOBUTOR MEAN BY THEIR USE OF THE PHRASE -- “A NORMAL SCHOOL”-- ??!?!?!?!!!!!!

THAT SOUNDS PRETTY RACIST TO ME !!!!!!


””She was the first African-American female college graduate to teach in a normal school in Oklahoma ...””

SOURCE:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethel_Hedgeman_Lyle —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.244.31.167 (talk) 18:27, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Normal Schools were schools for training elementary school teachers, part of a school system based on the German model. In the beginning, they might have been something like a finishing school or community college. Most were expanded with 4-year college curriculums and became teachers colleges, and then often full state universities. --Parkwells (talk) 21:11, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
An explanation of the name is at normal school to which the article now links (I haven't checked when that link was made but a little research on your part would have found the article).
I note the use of capitals, which on the Internet is termed shouting. Readers' Digest once commented The difference between a prejudice and a conviction is, you can explain a conviction without getting mad. Food for thought? Andrewa (talk) 15:16, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

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