Talk:Euclid Tsakalotos

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Fields[edit]

His research fields are not displaying. I have tried embedding Infobox scientist, but that doesn't seem to be working. --Jpbrenna (talk) 23:51, 6 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Generation"[edit]

" Chancellor of the Exchequer, George Osborne, who also attended St Paul's School and the University of Oxford, although they are a generation apart.[7]" It appears that these gentlemen were born 11 years apart. A familial generation might be 20 to 30 yrs in developed economies such as those of Greece and the UK. Perhaps the sentence is meaningful without the reference to generations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.191.211.55 (talk) 16:15, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps, although in terms of schooling that would be a generation as Tsakalotos would have gone through school and left completely before Osborne joined. --Andrewdwilliams (talk) 21:16, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

School[edit]

We have multiple sources in English, German and Greek that seem to disagree about his school: whether Eton, or Saint Paul's (perhaps both at different times, although none of them say that - they name one or the other). Until we have a definitive source such as a retraction from one of the outlets saying they were wrong about his school, a press release from Tsakalotos clarifying, release of school records etc. then we have to equivocate on the school issue. We have multiple sources saying different things, none of which cite their own sources. Jpbrenna (talk) 20:00, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Also, I think we should resist any attempts to elaborate that Tsakalotos is no longer Alternate Minister for International Economic Relations. A number of news articles have said that he has left this role after taking on the role of Finance Minister, although there has been no official confirmation of that anywhere, no definitive sources have actually established that. --Andrewdwilliams (talk) 21:23, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

We now have a source that places him at St. Paul's 1973-8, and quotes him on his attendance there. I believe both Eton and St. Paul's have six forms and begin their academic year at Michaelmas term, 1973-8, so that leaves one year where he could have been at Eton before transferring to St. Paul's, if that was allowed. Alternatively, he could have been at St. Paul's and then been accepted as a Sixth Form entrant at Eton. Presently, they allow this only for scholarship students and very select fee-paying students [1]. If the rules were the same then, he could have been one of those selected at the time. There is still no confirmation or denial of Eton attendance and the possibility is still open, but it is certainly safe to say that he spent the majority of his time at St. Paul's and we could add some of those details straight away. Jpbrenna (talk) 09:35, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I can't disprove it, but I would say it is very unlikely that he went to Eton. I have no memory of him. We seem to be sure enough that he went to St Paul's, and I have no memory of anyone transferring between major English private schools. Viewfinder (talk) 14:57, 10 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think it unlikely too, but we do have reputable sources that say he went to Eton, and we can't disprove it right now. --Jpbrenna (talk) 20:41, 10 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No Longer Alternate Minister[edit]

With his page being removed from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs website, I think we can assume that he has stopped being the Alternate Minister of International Economic Relations. We can continue to use an archived version of that page for the useful information it has on it. --Andrewdwilliams (talk) 12:59, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Also, I have reverted Infobox edits that degraded the level of precision in these dates. I don't think it should say marely "2015" if he did not spend the majority of that year in a particular office. Someone scanning the infobox for a brief summary will be left with the mistaken impression about the length of his tenure in each office. --Jpbrenna (talk) 00:04, 9 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of File:Euclid Tsakalotos Signature.jpg[edit]

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Decorative use of a non-free image of a signature in the main infobox of Euclid Tsakalotos. There's no critical commentary anywhere in the article about this significance, so there's no real context for non-free use as required by WP:NFCC#8. Being "not fake and publicaly available on the Internet" seems to be an attempt to justify non-free use per WP:ITSFREE or WP:ITSHISTORIC, neither of which are really good justification especially since, once again, there's no mention of the significance of the signature anywhere outside of the main infobox.

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