Talk:Falls Village, Connecticut
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explanation of "substantially similar"
[edit]I added statement into article that the "village" of Falls Village is "substantially similar" to the "Falls Village District", a NRHP-listed historic district, with "citation needed" tag. Please, other editors, do not lightly remove that statement as it is compromise worked out among other edit-war determined editors at List of RHPs in CT and elsewhere. If you would like to remove the "citation needed" tag, please obtain and add a source which specifically discusses the relationship between "Falls Village" and the NRHP historic district that is apparently in or near the village. In particular, please obtain and cite the free NRHP nomination document by email request to "nr_reference (at) nps.gov". If anyone cares to disagree with me that this is a fair presentation of the compromise agreement, they are probably lying. :) doncram (talk) 07:46, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- I am not lying, and I resent the implication that anyone who disagrees with Doncram is a liar. My reasons for deleting that sentence (or, in some cases, tagging it as "needing clarification") are laid out in copious detail at Talk:Baltic, Connecticut, where I actually encapsulated much longer statements elsewhere.
- Doncram is adding these sentences because of a perceived need to say something (even if that "something" is basically original research and the sentence doesn't make sense outside the talk page context) about the geographic relationship between a village and an HD in any article that discusses both. I continue to contend that the reader has no need to find such a statement in an article, and the sentences make no sense when added to articles. As noted I on an edit summary earlier today, in the context of an article that sentence serves primarily to leave users wondering "WTF is Wikipedia doing now?" --Orlady (talk) 15:12, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- I readded a "substantially similar" statement, per agreement among some editors (altho against Orlady's opinion) to stabilize CT NRHP articles. The current article contains some sourced description of the HD, but it does not compare the village vs. the HD. I am guessing the NRHP nom document would serve as a good source to characterize the relationship. doncram (talk) 20:58, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- Polaron removed the statement, with an edit summary asserting the relationship is described in the third paragraph. I don't see such a statement. What i see is description of the district, not a sourced description of any relationship of the district to the village. By relationship, what could be put in is some description of the district including some parts of the village, but excluding other parts of the village, with footnote to a map page or other pages of the NRHP nomination document, for example. Or, better, some characterization of what is the village/hamlet as a whole, from some source, and note of what is different vs. the district. I'll wait for some substantial response, and otherwise revert to the "substantially similar" clause with its obvious call for editors to do some research. I suppose another alternative is to agree to split this article to allow separate, internally consistent articles about HD and about village, in which neither attempts to describe a relationship. doncram (talk) 14:16, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
There is already such a statement based on the nomination form. It is the portion in the central part of the village that was built up as a result of having a railroad stop here. --Polaron | Talk 15:14, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
Separate NRHP HD article or not
[edit]A bunch of editors have been debating (elsewhere, as well as some above) when and where it is helpful to have separate articles on NRHP HDs, like about "Falls Village District", vs. when it is best to include the NRHP info in an article about a village/hamlet/neighborhood like this "Falls Village, Connecticut" article.
Some of the editors (me included) agree that for Falls Village and Falls Village HD we currently want a merged article. But if there is someone who wants to make a decent separate article, that would be okay too. We just ask, please don't split out a separate NRHP HD article unless a) you have created or are actively developing a DYK-equivalent length starter article using substantial information, and b) you judge in good faith that it is beneficial to have the NRHP HD be a separate article.
Note, for all CT NRHPs, a good source is available, the NRHP nomination document, provided free of charge upon email request to nr_reference (at) nps.gov. And, in December 2010, the National Register has just made available online copies of almost all of the NRHP documents for CT: see search screen here.
Currently, "Falls Village District" is set to redirect to "Falls Village, Connecticut". (Equivalent notice being placed at Talk:Falls Village District.) --doncram (talk) 20:58, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Image copyright problem with File:CanaanCTseal.jpg
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- Fixed, as the logo is for both places. Best, Markvs88 (talk) 15:58, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
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