Talk:Fast of Esther
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The fast before Requesting the King
[edit]The tradition of first month fast in Nisan counters the Nehemiah Theory of20th year begins in Tishri so that CHislev and Nisan are both the 20th year. Further, what was so urgent in Nisan if they had until Adar to fear the Persians. So was this fast Tishri instead? Much closer and just 5 months from Adar? Persian years began with Thoth which is in December in that decade; thus Chislev (whether 20th is December 455bc or 445bc, and Nisan March 454bc or 444bc can both months be 20th year, and a fast of Esther in Thoth (475bc Dec) as 1st month (mistaken as a 1st month Nisan fast, or the Adar 474bc February war fast). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.86.64.46 (talk) 02:19, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
The Bible clearly says that Esther dry fasted 3 days and 3 nights. Anyone who says otherwise, is going against what every major Bible clearly says in Esther 4:16.
This is not something to debate, it clearly says this in the Bible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.7.247.107 (talk) 20:23, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
- Queen Esther may have done so, but that's not what this article is about. Jonathunder (talk) 16:18, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
The article IS about the fast of queen Esther. The 'origin' section is directly from the story of Esther. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.7.247.237 (talk) 23:09, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Preggo
[edit]“ | Since the Fast of Esther is not one of the four public fasts ordained by the Prophets, the laws are more lenient; pregnant women, nursing mothers, and those who are weak are not required to observe it.
(Note: in certain situations a weak, sick, or pregnant person is not required or even permitted to observe any Jewish fast day; a rabbi should be consulted to determine the law for one's specific situation.) |
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Suggestion: delete these two sentences since the second sentence contradicts the first sentence. The laws are not more lenient for the Fast of Esther. Preggos, milkos, and noobs are not to observe it. --The Cobwebs and the Sorrow (talk) 13:05, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Seconded: The sentences are misleading (and plagiarized from OU description of Fast of Esther) - it is in fact specifically forbidden for anyone who's health would be jeopardized to observe any fast. This is generally true even in more restrictive Orthodox and Hasidic movements as the expected audience for the OU article would know. While particularly observant Jews may feel that pregnancy itself is not a blanket exception to single day fasts (see Chabad response to a pregnant woman regarding fasting on Yom Kippur), and certainly the relative importance of the fast day may be taken into account (I am not a scholar of Jewish law), the first sentence suggests a level of observance that implies that a person might be put at risk.
Suggested rewording: The Fast of Esther is not one of the four public fasts ordained by the Prophets, and therefore the rules surrounding its observance are more lenient. 96.244.219.146 (talk) 16:53, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Events of past: The quote in hebrew is "to confirm all (or these) days of Purim ... words of the fasts and cry of them (Mordecai and Esther)". The porpose of these "words of fasts and cry", here, is to conform Purim and not to confirm the fast keept by quin Esther one year before - in the first days of Passover. FlorinCB (talk) 14:59, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
- If the fast was 3 days and 3 nights should be from the midday of 12 Nissan to the midday of 15 Nissan.
- If the fast was 3 nights and 3 days should be from the sundown of 12 Nissan to the sundown of 15 Nissan.
- In the second case is from 13 Nissan till 16 Nissan on the religious calendar, were the days are counted from sundown and not from midnight. When the fast was moved to Adar was important to end before Purim starts. FlorinCB (talk) 19:56, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
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