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Question/Concern with the content of "Disillusion" section[edit]

I own and have read "Fatu-Hiva - Back to Nature"^[1] and don't find the following highlighted (bold) italicized text:

"There is nothing for modern man to return to. Our wonderful time in the wilderness had given us a taste of what man had abandoned and what mankind was still trying to get even further away from. Progress today can be defined as man's ability to complicate simplicity. Nothing in all the procedure that modern man, helped by all his modern middlemen, goes through before he earns money to buy a fish or a potato will ever be as simple as pulling it out of the water or soil. Without the farmer and the fisherman, modern society would collapse, with all its shops and pipes and wires. The farmers and the fishermen represent the nobility of modern society; they share their crumbs with the rest of us, who run about with papers and screwdrivers attempting to build a better world without a blueprint."

Specifically, the text:

"There is nothing for modern man to return to. Our wonderful time in the wilderness had given us a taste of what man had abandoned and what mankind was still trying to get even further away from. ..."

is not present in my edition.

What/where is the source for this text? Perhaps the presence of this text depends on the book's edition, although the edition I have was "First published in Great Britain by George Allen & Unwin, 1974". I don't own, nor have access to, other editions (Penguin Books, et al., Buccaneer Books) so I don't have any way to check or to offer a correction or reference.

The Copyright page of this edition:

First published in 1974

Printed in the United States of America

In this edition the paragraph is written as:

"Progress can today also be defined as man's ability to complicate simplicity. Nothing in all the procedure that modern man, helped by all his modern middlemen, goes through before he earns money to buy a fish or a potato will ever be as simple as pulling it out of the water or soil. Without the farmer or the fisherman, modern society would collapse, with all its shops and all its pipes and wires. The farmers and fishermen represent the nobility of modern society; they share their crumbs with the rest of us, who run about with papers and screwdrivers, attempting to build a better world without a blueprint."

Heyerdahl's final conclusion - the final sentence on page 269:

'"Liv," I said, "one can't buy a ticket to Paradise"'

TMountney (talk) 20:20, 12 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Heyerdahl, Thor (1974). Fatu-Hiva - Back to Nature (Book Club ed.). Doubleday & Company, Ltd. p. 262. {{cite book}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help)

[1] Heyerdahl, Thor (1974). Fatu-Hiva - Back to Nature (Book Club ed.). Doubleday & Company, Ltd. p. 262. {{cite book}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help)

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